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Why Isn't Gobert Playing?

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If Gobert were 13 years older and was washed up...he'd get 25 minutes a game. It's just not his time right now.

Yea, right now he has desire to improve and a hope of getting more time, attention, money. Once the jazz have drained him of both desire and hope then he will be ready, and when he is ready the master will appear and teach him the ways of the vet.
 
They want to reinvent Beans so they can trade him. If Beans succeeds, we have a nice trade piece. If Beans fails, we have a better tank.

I too would like to see Gobert play ahead of Beans, but I think the F/O is looking at it like "well we have Gobert for 4 yrs. guaranteed, and he wasn't even supposed to be as far along as he is and playing as much as he is, so cutting his minutes wouldn't hurt." It's the old "hard asset management" KOC used to talk about--which is kind of retard IMHO. We should always try to develop the guys we drafted, from day one. We should never say "well they're still young" and put it off until some unforeseen future.
 
Gobert is too tall to get consistent playing time. You definitely need to be short to succeed in teh basketballs.
 
They want to reinvent Beans so they can trade him. If Beans succeeds, we have a nice trade piece. If Beans fails, we have a better tank.

I too would like to see Gobert play ahead of Beans, but I think the F/O is looking at it like "well we have Gobert for 4 yrs. guaranteed, and he wasn't even supposed to be as far along as he is and playing as much as he is, so cutting his minutes wouldn't hurt." It's the old "hard asset management" KOC used to talk about--which is kind of retard IMHO. We should always try to develop the guys we drafted, from day one. We should never say "well they're still young" and put it off until some unforeseen future.

Good post, but at the same time, how does this reflect on what Corbin is doing? Is he really not this dumb and just playing the role as instructed by the front office?
 
I don't think so

They want to reinvent Beans so they can trade him. If Beans succeeds, we have a nice trade piece. If Beans fails, we have a better tank.

I too would like to see Gobert play ahead of Beans, but I think the F/O is looking at it like "well we have Gobert for 4 yrs. guaranteed, and he wasn't even supposed to be as far along as he is and playing as much as he is, so cutting his minutes wouldn't hurt." It's the old "hard asset management" KOC used to talk about--which is kind of retard IMHO. We should always try to develop the guys we drafted, from day one. We should never say "well they're still young" and put it off until some unforeseen future.

I agree with what you are saying, but don't agree with how you are characterizing KOC and DL's asset management philosophy: "because a player is further along than expected, they get less playing time"

It is more likely that DL believes that the Jazz and Gobert will be better off in 3-4 years if he is developed slowly, and allowing his strength and conditioning to develop with his skills.

Personally, I think the answer is somewhere in between. I see no logic in having him ride the bench, but also think he is nowhere near ready for regular 20+ minutes. I'd be playing him an average of 10-15 mpg.
 
So, any answer about Biedrins being played in order to up his trade value is probably bunk. I have come to realize that no matter how well Biedrins plays this season, his trade value will remain the same. He is an expiring contract, no more, no less.

The only really good argument for Gobert not playing is because he is just not that good right now. But neither is Biedrins, so whatever.
 
This is the year of the tank, not just a jazz tank but everybody on the east side except for Miami and Indy and several in the west. Biedrens has no value to a contender in the traditional meaning of contender. But he is so bad at being being good that he has huge value to a tank contender. I could see the jazz flipping him to Milawaukee for Illislova, or Sacramento for jason Thompson or to Cleveland for something. Biedrens could put a team destined for a 6-7 pick square into contention for the #1 worst record. The question is will the jazz give up such a valued asset, and how much will it take to get him?
 
I don't think the Jazz were anticipating having Gobert play at all this year, and they are sticking to that plan. If he's better than Biedrins, it's not by much. I do like how he causes problems on Defense.
 
Hardly worse than Biedrins. You call playing Biedrins competing? Have you watched Gobert play? He actually can be a game changer on the defensive end when he gets PT. In any case, he needs to play.

Another guy we all said that he was too raw, etc, Jeremy, is showing this year that he's more capable than we had thought, but he never got PT before. So, whose fault was that? Call Dennis Lindsey and demand Corbin be removed -- 801-844-2701.

But you said players only develop on the court... You just killed your troll schtick dude.
 
I don't think the Jazz were anticipating having Gobert play at all this year, and they are sticking to that plan. If he's better than Biedrins, it's not by much. I do like how he causes problems on Defense.

He also makes the dumbest fouls you'll ever see and has no offense so he clogs the machine.
 
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