Do you think its possible we are living in a holographic universe?
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Well yes, the reverse is also true. Bad choices increase the likelihood of other bad choices. So each choice you make has very real consequences not just for yourself, but for your meta-self. I see it as an expanded definition of choice.
But you're right, it is very different than the typical idea of free choice. That's not surprising since it is a very different way to view reality. I've always been fascinated about my "true" existence across the mutliverse (assuming there is such a thing). My existence in SLC is just a data point on my position probability distribution. So the true Siro exists across the entire planet with different concentrations in different places, creating a sort of planet-encompassing Psi-squared net of Siros. How strange it would be to have access to such information.
I looked it up and it seem like one of those delayed choice experiments that try to examine causality by having an effect happen before its cause. I'd have to read the paper to give any opinions, and that's a bit time consuming. But there are plenty of of experiments that use entanglement and teleportation to achieve mind-blowing results. There is still so much to learn.
You got it! I just remembered I had a video of the double slit experiment from a previous semester.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH_Jsl0FxYU
We're shining a laser through two side-by-side narrow slits positioned at the back of the room, towards the white board at the front of the room. The red laser is kind of hard to see in the video, but the green laser at the very end is much easier.
Well yes, the reverse is also true. Bad choices increase the likelihood of other bad choices. So each choice you make has very real consequences not just for yourself, but for your meta-self. I see it as an expanded definition of choice.
I'm still not getting it. In your view, don't bad choices and good choices happen with equal likelihood? (And if not, why not?) So one meta-self is getting more and more good, but another meta-self is getting more and more bad?
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Thanks. The green laser was really cool. Was it just a laser pointer type thing? Could I do this at home?
Siro/colton,
Both of you seem to be assuming in your discussion that human decision making would be a type of even that triggers a split into alternate universes in a many-worlds scenario. I don't pretend to understand the details, but it that accurate? What about human decision-making would trigger such a split?
Both of you seem to be assuming in your discussion that human decision making would be a type of even that triggers a split into alternate universes in a many-worlds scenario. I don't pretend to understand the details, but it that accurate? What about human decision-making would trigger such a split?
Why would both outcomes have equal likelihood? Remember that an individual retains information from past events, and uses that information to make the choice. The end result is analogous to biological evolution. Say one version of you makes the choice to drink and drive and ends up in an accident, while another decides against it and ends up alright. Both decisions will have been made in countless universes, but in equal probability because the decision is based on your brain and the experiences in accumulated. Then after the choice is made, those who made the right choice will 1. Live long enough to make other choices, 2. Gain new information about the wisdom of not driving drunk, which will be used in making future choices.
Yes, it was just a laser pointer.
You can do it from home if you can somehow rig up two narrow slits next to each other. They would need to each be a fraction of a millimeter wide (the narrower the better), and separated by a distance just less than the width of the laser beam.
What would be much easier is to see diffraction from a single slit at home. That also sets up a cool pattern. You could do that just by setting up two razor blades next to each other, separated by some distance that's a bit less than the width of your laser beam. And, even easier, you can also get the same effect by having a narrow object obstructing the beam--I typically use a hair.*
See these videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2TtJLDiqMA
(next video in next post due to site limitations)
* Come to think of it, you should be able to get the double slit pattern by using two hairs held closely side by side. That would probably be much easier than two slits.
I'm not saying both outcomes are equally likely in OUR universe, I'm saying both outcomes are equally likely across ALL universes. Or if not exactly equally likely, at least somewhat close to equally likely. Because in an alternate universe there's a Colton who went astray early on, right, and has been making bad choices ever since. So THAT colton would be about as likely to drive drunk as THIS colton is unlikely to do so.
Edit: Getting back to the legal question, then--so why would you punish THAT colton for merely having the misfortune to live in a universe where his likelihood of driving drunk was greatly enhanced? It's not HIS fault he lived in that universe rather than this one. That's what I'm getting at with this view being at odds with free will.
If two separate paths exist for the atoms doing the calculations in the brain, then both paths will be taken. So yes, choice would trigger such a split in my understanding.