Just a note--the fourth worst team has less than a 50% chance of grabbing a top 4 pick.
imagine if Jabari becomes an all star and we failed to tank to get him. UPGRADE THE TANK.
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Just a note--the fourth worst team has less than a 50% chance of grabbing a top 4 pick.
spycam1
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As opposed to the experience we could get by winning as we're currently reaping all the benefits of that 2012 playoff run.
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You're right.
Let's play vets who won't be with us next year so we can obtain the 12th best record in the west. Then, we can draft another role player to take Hayward's place. Maybe by his 4th year he will average double figures and then we can let him go so we can draft another role player!
This is so fun! Stay the course! Mediocrity here we come! We want the 12th seed!
Updated April 24th - final standings and after tie-breakers
1. Orlando Magic- 250 combinations, 25.0% chance of receiving the #1 pick
2. Charlotte Bobcats - 199 combinations, 19.9% chance
3. Cleveland Cavaliers - 156 combinations, 15.6% chance
4. Phoenix Suns - 119 combinations, 11.9% chance
5. New Orleans Pelicans - 88 combinations, 8.8% chance
6. Sacramento Kings - 63 combinations, 6.3% chance
7. Detroit Pistons- 36 combinations, 3.6% chance
8. Washington Wizards- 35 combinations, 3.5% chance
9. Minnesota Timberwolves- 17 combinations, 1.7% chance
10. Portland Trail Blazers- 11 combinations, 1.1% chance
11. Philadelpiha 76ers - 8 combinations, 0.8% chance
12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via TOR)- 7 combinations, 0.7% chance
13. Dallas Mavericks- 6 combinations, 0.6% chance
14. Utah Jazz - 5 combinations, 0.5% chance
Look at last years draft order, and odds.
Interesting that Cleveland ended up winning from the 3rd spot. Bobcats got screwed going from 2 to 4. That would kill me a little, but at least we'd end up with someone we'd be excited about.
1. Orlando Magic- 250 combinations, 25.0% chance of receiving the #1 pick
2. Charlotte Bobcats - 199 combinations, 19.9% chance
3. Cleveland Cavaliers - 156 combinations, 15.6% chance
4. Phoenix Suns - 119 combinations, 11.9% chance
5. New Orleans Pelicans - 88 combinations, 8.8% chance
6. Sacramento Kings - 63 combinations, 6.3% chance
7. Detroit Pistons- 36 combinations, 3.6% chance
8. Washington Wizards- 35 combinations, 3.5% chance
9. Minnesota Timberwolves- 17 combinations, 1.7% chance
10. Portland Trail Blazers- 11 combinations, 1.1% chance
11. Philadelpiha 76ers - 8 combinations, 0.8% chance
12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via TOR)- 7 combinations, 0.7% chance
13. Dallas Mavericks- 6 combinations, 0.6% chance
14. Utah Jazz - 5 combinations, 0.5% chance
Look at last years draft order, and odds.
Interesting that Cleveland ended up winning from the 3rd spot. Bobcats got screwed going from 2 to 4. That would kill me a little, but at least we'd end up with someone we'd be excited about.
spycam1
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We still had a chance at winning doe
Hey genius, the Jazz can be the tankiest team in the league yet only get the 4th pick. That's how the system works.
Yes but sucking on purpose is bad all around. It's bad basketball, it's bad for the game, it's bad for the league. And they still expect to charge full ticket price to see bad basketball. I just hope they find a way to further discourage teams from tanking. It's ruining the NBA.
But OTOH I understand that at some point you have to see what your current crop is capable of. That may mean that you suck for a year or two. Hopefully not longer.
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Darius Miles was also a stinking piece of **** and if you don't think that is a HUGE factor then you can fill in the blank.
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Hell yea yamers... and Numb... keep on posin!
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fallenchicken
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Why the tank isn't in as much jeopardy as you think, A Settle the **** Down piece, by fallenchicken:
It's pointless to whine about the Lakers win. We're really not winning games because of Richard Jefferson and you know it (if anything, we should be playing him more for the tank), so stop with the "You just want to play vets" straw man. If we win a game because Derrick Favors has an awesome performance, oh well. I know to the fan-base the bird in the bush seems better than the one in hand, but we need Favors to develop. At least until we draft him, Favors is more important to our team than the fantasy chance of Jabari.
We're probably not going to out-tank the Bucks. I'd like too, but they are outstandingly bad. I mean they are bad in ways we've never seen before. They'll be writing books studying just how bad they are. But... a hero arises: pray for Larry Sanders! Pray for the Greek Freak to finally do something and validate all the hype!
Here's the good news: We could, and hopefully will, out-tank the rest. Let's remember that this Jazz team is one injury away. If one of Trey, Hayward, Burks, Marvin, Favors don't play, we lose. Marvin is an expiring contract; there's always a chance we could move him to a playoff team, or get involved in a bigger trade. History says Favors and Marvin are getting injured again this season. I wouldn't be surprised if Trey has to sit out another ten games with an injury. He hurt his ankle only two nights ago.
How many teams are actually, balls-out tanking, as opposed to just being bad? Let's see here: the Bucks (who are getting Larry Sanders back), The Sixers (Michael-Carter Williams is coming back from injury, as well), and Orlando. The Celtics and Suns, who predicted to out-tank us before the season started, could very likely make the playoffs. Sucks for them, good for us. Sacramento oddly traded for Rudy Gay--they seem to be trying to win games. (Or maybe they're just executing a brilliant tank plan, making Rudy Gay the driver). Toronto is the 4th seed in the East; they're not tanking. The Lakers are trying to win. They have too much pride to tank, and coach Pringles is playing for his job.
Other threats: New York, Brooklyn, Cleveland and Memphis all have pressure to win and make the playoffs, even if they won't. Some of those teams, we won't mention any names, don't even own their picks. And, with the exception of maybe New York at this point--who has the talent to turn it on at some point here (waiting...)--they're all better than us.
If we're saying let's try to move Marvin Williams, just to get him off the team and make it that much harder for us to win: I'm with you. We're all with you. Make it happen. But I won't root against our young core for a hypothetical savior. We're going to get in the lottery the good old fashioned way: by being legitimately bad. Which, please don't forget, no matter what David Locke tells you: we're bad. We're really, really bad! And we're going to lose a lot of games. We beat a ****ty Lakers team at home. Oh well. Happy for Favors. It was cool for him to get a game-winner. Let's move on to the next loss, shall we?
It's pointless to whine about the Lakers win. We're really not winning games because of Richard Jefferson and you know it (if anything, we should be playing him more for the tank), so stop with the "You just want to play vets" straw man. If we win a game because Derrick Favors has an awesome performance, oh well. I know to the fan-base the bird in the bush seems better than the one in hand, but we need Favors to develop. At least until we draft him, Favors is more important to our team than the fantasy chance of Jabari.
We're probably not going to out-tank the Bucks. I'd like too, but they are outstandingly bad. I mean they are bad in ways we've never seen before. They'll be writing books studying just how bad they are. But... a hero arises: pray for Larry Sanders! Pray for the Greek Freak to finally do something and validate all the hype!
Here's the good news: We could, and hopefully will, out-tank the rest. Let's remember that this Jazz team is one injury away. If one of Trey, Hayward, Burks, Marvin, Favors don't play, we lose. Marvin is an expiring contract; there's always a chance we could move him to a playoff team, or get involved in a bigger trade. History says Favors and Marvin are getting injured again this season. I wouldn't be surprised if Trey has to sit out another ten games with an injury. He hurt his ankle only two nights ago.
How many teams are actually, balls-out tanking, as opposed to just being bad? Let's see here: the Bucks (who are getting Larry Sanders back), The Sixers (Michael-Carter Williams is coming back from injury, as well), and Orlando. The Celtics and Suns, who predicted to out-tank us before the season started, could very likely make the playoffs. Sucks for them, good for us. Sacramento oddly traded for Rudy Gay--they seem to be trying to win games. (Or maybe they're just executing a brilliant tank plan, making Rudy Gay the driver). Toronto is the 4th seed in the East; they're not tanking. The Lakers are trying to win. They have too much pride to tank, and coach Pringles is playing for his job.
Other threats: New York, Brooklyn, Cleveland and Memphis all have pressure to win and make the playoffs, even if they won't. Some of those teams, we won't mention any names, don't even own their picks. And, with the exception of maybe New York at this point--who has the talent to turn it on at some point here (waiting...)--they're all better than us.
If we're saying let's try to move Marvin Williams, just to get him off the team and make it that much harder for us to win: I'm with you. We're all with you. Make it happen. But I won't root against our young core for a hypothetical savior. We're going to get in the lottery the good old fashioned way: by being legitimately bad. Which, please don't forget, no matter what David Locke tells you: we're bad. We're really, really bad! And we're going to lose a lot of games. We beat a ****ty Lakers team at home. Oh well. Happy for Favors. It was cool for him to get a game-winner. Let's move on to the next loss, shall we?