Dennis Lindsey feels he owes Richard Jefferson a lot

[GVC]

From the bench

So you'd rather see Alec get a couple more minutes at the expense of a bunch of his possessions playing with Trey and Gordo in the starting lineup? Seems counterproductive to me.

Alec closed another "close" game last night with RJ on the bench. Very little mention of this here. If at the end of the season Alec is closing ~80% of close games and playing 30 minutes per, what then?

 

[Notes]

Why would Alec be frustrated and RJ happy?

Gee I don't know, maybe because he's younger, quicker, more athletic, averages more points, assists, rebounds and steals per game, has a better assist:turnover ratio, better PER, and is just an all around better — MUCH better — player?

What kind of precedent is set when a young, talented player that has been here for three years now, keeps getting passed over by all the hack vets the Jazz bring in from other teams' dumpster piles? Not a good one at all. Imagine you improving at your job for multiple years and when an opening for a big promotion comes, boss gives it to a bumbling, washed up guy just because he has "more experience" even when you know you'd do 10 times better.

Yeah I'm sure Burks feels great about all this.

 

[franklin]

Gee I don't know, maybe because he's younger, quicker, more athletic, averages more points, assists, rebounds and steals per game, has a better assist:turnover ratio, better PER, and is just an all around better — MUCH better — player?

What kind of precedent is set when a young, talented player that has been here for three years now, keeps getting passed over by all the hack vets the Jazz bring in from other teams' dumpster piles? Not a good one at all. Imagine you improving at your job for multiple years and when an opening for a big promotion comes, boss gives it to a bumbling, washed up guy just because he has "more experience" even when you know you'd do 10 times better.

Yeah I'm sure Burks feels great about all this.

In other words, you don't care about context or fact and simply want to cry on an internet message board about perceived problems that don't exist.

 

[fishonjazz]

So you'd rather see Alec get a couple more minutes at the expense of a bunch of his possessions playing with Trey and Gordo in the starting lineup? Seems counterproductive to me.

Alec closed another "close" game last night with RJ on the bench. Very little mention of this here. If at the end of the season Alec is closing ~80% of close games and playing 30 minutes per, what then?

Don't have to be alec.... Hell move marvin to SF and put enes in. Move Hayward to SF and play diante garret at the two. Whatever move you can think of to stop giving major minutes to a player that does very little for the future of this franchise.

Or knock jeffys minutes down by about 5 per game and increase alecs by five, keeping alec coming off the bench.....right now alec is at 27.1 minutes per game and jeffy is at 27.0 so make alecs numbers bigger and jeffys smaller.


Lots of options there

 

[gregbroncs]

Is this an outright admission that it was a tanking move, or is he suggesting that the fans should see something else?
Why does he feel the Jazz owe so much to these vets? It's our job to rehabilitate players that GS neglects? I get the value of creating positive relationships with agents and a good reputation with players, but I think this is too much, especially at the expense of a guy like Kanter who could definitely be playing more minutes if not for this commitment to players who clearly will not be on this team long term. It's extremely frustrating to have seen only 15 minutes of the lineup most of the fans on this board were excited for when this year began.

The most frustrating thing to me about this season is the part I highlighted. How that lineup can't get any playing time is an indictment on the intelligence of our coach. There is no way that we should get through this season without knowing the strength and weaknesses of this lineup. And if we don't see it on the court then how are they going to know what this lineup can do as a core group of players? How will we know which of them (if any) don't fit in?

 

[mellow]

Why do the jazz have to show loyalty to some guy who has already announced he is going title hunting next year?

Who is billy Duffy going to 'deliver' to the jazz in return for letting Biedrens dress and not play for all of December?
https://hoopshype.com/agents/bill_duffy.htm

Maybe mr. Tanner will let the jazz sign Luke Ridinour or Shane battier next offseason?
https://hoopshype.com/agents/jim_tanner.htm

But for the life of me I can't figure out why the Jazz need to be concerned with building a relationship with a player that has said he wants to leave, and an agent who only has one other client.
https://hoopshype.com/agents/todd_eley.htm

The Jazz might say they have not lost their way, but they have certainly lost me along the way.

 

[fishonjazz]

Why do the jazz have to show loyalty to some guy who has already announced he is going title hunting next year?

Who is billy Duffy going to 'deliver' to the jazz in return for letting Biedrens dress and not play for all of December?
https://hoopshype.com/agents/bill_duffy.htm

Maybe mr. Tanner will let the jazz sign Luke Ridinour or Shane battier next offseason?
https://hoopshype.com/agents/jim_tanner.htm

But for the life of me I can't figure out why the Jazz need to be concerned with building a relationship with a player that has said he wants to leave, and an agent who only has one oft her client.
https://hoopshype.com/agents/todd_eley.htm

The Jazz might say they have not lost their way, but they have certainly lost me along the way.

Good stuff mellow
repped

 

[Notes]

In other words, you don't care about context or fact and simply want to cry on an internet message board about perceived problems that don't exist.

You're right, let's just keep quiet and let it be. Play RJ and Marv 40 mpg. Next year when they leave, sign more mediocre vets to come in and take their place playing 40 mpg. Just as long as Burks and Kanter never get a real shot. We'll talk about rebuilding when in reality all we're doing is charity work for washed up hacks. Then we can always be just bad enough to either not make the playoffs or get trounced in the first round, and just good enough to never acquire enough star power to be a team worth giving half a damn about.

And then when fans who actually want this team to become something make their voices heard, we'll all become internet tough guys and tell them to stop crying.

Good plan.

 

[franklin]

I'm down with playing Marvin and Richard 40 mpg, preferably with the entire rest during the first 8 minutes of the game.

 

[jazzrule]

In other words, you don't care about context or fact and simply want to cry on an internet message board about perceived problems that don't exist.

No.....................in other words he is right on and you are in right field.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

I heard Darko Milicic is having some troubles in the league. Maybe DL can bring him in and resurrect his career!!!!!!! Who need a youth movement we could be the last hoorah movement! The one foot in a grave movement!!!! The I though I was done since I couldn't even sniff the court on a horrible team movement!!!!!

[video=youtube_share;KuCA7gZXExE]https://youtu.be/KuCA7gZXExE

Stop posting scenes from this ****ing movie. It's ****ing terrible and not funny.

 

[Jeditiger]

No.....................in other words he is right on and you are in right field.

No, in other words he didn't read the post detailing how Burkes' minutes and roll have been steadily increasing while those of Richard Jefferson have been decreasing.

IN OTHER WORDS, you're getting exactly that for which you are bitching.