Gay marriage in Utah put on hold

[TroutBum]

Chooses to be different? Who wants to open this can of worms while speeding down a slippery slope?

Ah, good catch. That was actually a generic term I used there, and didn't specifically mean that people choose to be gay. Of course, some do, but I believe that just like I was born liking girls, some people are born liking their own sex. I know, it's crazy.

 

[Beantown]

So if someone has downs, I suppose that could be an evolutionary trait that is "weak" also then? I'm seriously asking, because your implications are scary.

Lol you are so dumb. Down syndrome by its name is a "syndrome". It's an abnormality. Are you saying that homosexuality is an abnormality and a syndrome?

If homosexuality is a genetic trait that is passed on that is evolutionary weak. Its as weak as it gets. Its a trait that makes that person not pass on the genetic information to other generations.

 

[moevillini]

Lol you are so dumb. Down syndrome by its name is a "syndrome". It's an abnormality. Are you saying that homosexuality is an abnormality and a syndrome?

If homosexuality is a genetic trait that is passed on that is evolutionary weak. Its as weak as it gets. Its a trait that makes that person not pass on the genetic information to other generations.

they do still reproduce - you know that, don't you?

 

[Stoked]

Lol you are so dumb. Down syndrome by its name is a "syndrome". It's an abnormality. Are you saying that homosexuality is an abnormality and a syndrome?

If homosexuality is a genetic trait that is passed on that is evolutionary weak. Its as weak as it gets. Its a trait that makes that person not pass on the genetic information to other generations.

Your assertion that a childless marriage is not a family "by deffinition" is a horrible, horrible stance. Just insanely bad. To the point that you truly need to step back from the debate for a moment and really look at what you are saying. Just damn man.

 

[jope]

this thread is the bee's knees

EDIT: the sexual preference of said bee, will not be disclosed until this matter is resolved.

 

[Sneakers]

they do still reproduce - you know that, don't you?

I suspect it's very common for a same sex couple to have their children produced from one of their genetic shtuff. I know at least one couple like this.

Maybe they alternate? (ok, that was a bad non-PC joke).

 

[TroutBum]

Lol you are so dumb. Down syndrome by its name is a "syndrome". It's an abnormality. Are you saying that homosexuality is an abnormality and a syndrome?

If homosexuality is a genetic trait that is passed on that is evolutionary weak. Its as weak as it gets. Its a trait that makes that person not pass on the genetic information to other generations.

Downs is a genetic trait that is passed on, so do you consider that as evolutionarily weak? Please answer my question with an answer, and not some idiotic re-question. *holds breath*

 

[colton]

As a very active Mo (I'm Jack, nice to meet you), I have no problem with anything you said there. I don't begrudge these men their beliefs or teachings. Like you and them, I agree, traditional marriage is clearly important and clearly different than gay marriage. That doesn't mean that just because someone chooses to be different than me, it is my duty to force them to be like me, or take away/deny them basic human rights and freedoms because they don't. It really is very simple: Love one another. Be excellent to each other. Party on, dude.

Nice Bill & Ted reference.

 

[Beantown]

Downs is a genetic trait that is passed on, so do you consider that as evolutionarily weak? Please answer my question with an answer, and not some idiotic re-question. *holds breath*

Its a birth defect, an abnormality. This isn't the same as being gay. Unless you are telling me that homosexuality is a syndrome and a birth defect.

So since you believe that being gay is a birth defect then I will answer your question. Down syndrome would not be a "weak" trait because they only have slightly lower fertility rates.

 

[Beantown]

For all the dumb people like Trout:

Down syndrome is usually caused by an error in cell division called "nondisjunction."

Again, Down syndrome is a birth defect. Its not a genetic trait like getting blue eyes from your Mom.

 

[TroutBum]

Its a birth defect, an abnormality. This isn't the same as being gay. Unless you are telling me that homosexuality is a syndrome and a birth defect.

So since you believe that being gay is a birth defect then I will answer your question. Down syndrome would not be a "weak" trait because they only have slightly lower fertility rates.

Wow.

So a baby is born with Downs, and because it is a trait that is evolutionarily weak, then that person should automatically receive less in the way of rights, freedoms, and choices.

So a baby is born a homosexual, and because it is a trait that is evolutionarily weak, then that person should automatically receive less in the way of rights, freedoms, and choices.

So a baby boy is born with testicular problems, and will never have the chance to reproduce. Because this is a trait that is evolutionarily weak, then that person should automatically receive less in the way of rights, freedoms, and choices.

So a baby is born that doesn't grow up to be what I think it should be; it doesn't live the way I do, think the way I do, believe in the same religion as I do. That person should automatically receive less in the way of rights, freedoms, and choices.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Mormons believe alcohol is immoral, that smoking is immoral, that gambling is immoral... that coffee is immoral. These things aren't illegal. Where is the lobby for these things to be illegal? Why can't you be cool with allowing consenting adults to do their thing under the law while still holding moral reservations about it, as you do with so many other vices out there? Why does your belief have to be intertwined with legality? I don't understand.

I have thought about this lots myself-- and by far the most common response I seem to get, is a mixture of: declaring that the term 'marriage' should ONLY be associated with its Christian interpretation (a farce, IMO); a belief that the Christian influence of America should be upheld, instead of secularity; or a refusal to give in to the 'liberal media-dominated' world where people are apparently being forced into accepting things.