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posts like this drive me bonkers. As if atheists are the only religious group who fit this description. Jesus.
Noah's Ark was round
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posts like this drive me bonkers. As if atheists are the only religious group who fit this description. Jesus.
You're challenging something that you can't prove either. Seems like a waste of time to me, but whatever floats your beaver I guess.
I choose to challenge Jason and the Mod staff to a pump-off.
I am humble in my belief system. I respect faith... whatever that looks like.
IRL.. none of you guys would survive a ****ing day negotiating important, financially, deals with me. Promise.
I respect faith, but sit across from me and think you get ANYTHING over on me when it's purely money.. you're toast. Come at me... minimum buy-in is around $5MM.
IRL.. none of you guys would survive a ****ing day negotiating important, financially, deals with me. Promise.
I respect faith, but sit across from me and think you get ANYTHING over on me when it's purely money.. you're toast. Come at me... minimum buy-in is around $5MM.
Archie Moses
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Of course the guy that thinks he's smarter and better than everyone is curious.
So is there some kind of rational basis for your belief in your superior perspective on elitism, or are we supposed to bow to you on your say-so???
I recognize you as a person of deficient thinking and argumentative skills who merely doesn't question your profound self-prepossessing arrogance because it's too much work to actually question anything that tingles your noggin. That doesn't get you into the clubs of the elites. They all have their own criteria for excluding wannabes like you. You know nothing about elitism. You are a lawyer. That's pretty low-class in the view of real elites who can buy a staff of lawyers for chump change.
This has been a great thread. Rep to you for finding the story and for your interest in actually thinking about stuff like the Book of Mormon, or history, or "God".
I look at stories like this as demonstrations of what we are as human beings, and as measures of how we transmit information or experience or belief to our young, and how that all plays out over the ages.
From my analysis of these aspects of our nature, I have to conclude that all belief systems are subject to the "least common denominator" principle, and that even if God somehow placed a superior man on this earth with a complete factual knowledge, even an absolute personal experience of conversing at length with "God", or even spent years following God around and knowing him better than, say, his own parents. . . . , and laid out a religion that was conclusively proven and published in ten peer-reviewed journals. . . . it would only take about three generations before it was all reduced to a fairy tale even a toddler could understand.
I conclude, from my examination of human nature, that we are in no position to fault God for giving us fairy tales in the first place. It makes our accountability no less, and it still doesn't undercut our responsibility to try to use our minds to improve our conduct.
Anyone who hitches a ride on the secular humanist train and believes man is justified in assuming the place of God by making their own values the supreme moral truths is still just an arrogant self-prepossessing fool hooked on inferior principles of reasoning. We don't lift ourselves by imposing our own thinking on the world around us, we smash the human capacity for art, for dreams, for ideals of things better than ourselves. . . . .
We need to reach for something better than what we can create with our own thinking. In politics and in law, we need a "higher authority" than ourselves. We need ideals of Truth, Beauty, and Justice that transcend our own wills.
It doesn't matter if our faith is full of our own fairy tales and traditional precepts. . . . it's the idea that there is something beyond our own selves that is relevant that takes us beyond our own selves. . . . . If a religion can do that, it has a value beyond what we can understand. . . .
Trying to process this exclamation in context.
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It's double-ironic, cuz I'm not even Christian either
Duck Rodgers
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How is that even possible in a religious discussion? Every time you say you are getting A in the after life, while someone who believes differently is getting B, you are saying your beliefs are better and belittling the other person's beliefs.
Asking for respect for your beliefs, when such respect has not been earned, is asking people to treat them as being in a special category, aka, bowing down to them.