Anybody else think Alec Burks can be a 20-25PPG player with 30+ MPG?

[seattlejazzfan]

The starting lineup lacks a true scorer and number 1 option.
Burks should start AND get lots of touches. Let hayward play defense, spot up for threes and run and finish in transition.
Let favors play defense, rebound, and run pick n roll with alec burks.
Let trey be a solid point guard that doesnt turn the ball over and shoots alot less so he doesnt have to do much. (he is only a rookie after all)
Marvin can continue spreading the floor to open up driving lanes for alec.

Seriously, favors and marv dont need many touches, hayward would probably be better and more efficient with less touches, and trey is a rookie trying to do too much.

Lets unleash the beast and see what Alec "slick pimp" burks can do

Good post. First, Thriller's comment made me chuckle. If only we had a throw away season to find out - lol.

Second you are right. Hayward is shooting 41% FGs, 32% 3pt and getting 17 ppg on 14.5 shots. Burks is shooting 45% FGs and 35% 3pt and getting 13 ppg on 10 shots. The both get to the line 4.5 times a game, but Burks does it in 27 minutes while Hayward does it in 36 minutes. Burks should be the guy doing the shooting and scoring on the team. Hayward is the better all-around player of the two - he rebounds and facilitates better than Burks - let him take on that role of playmaker and reduce his shots. He also defends better, so let him focus on that.

Also, forget about 30+, let's get him in the 34-35+ range like Hayward. He has a PER of 15.5, Dick's PER is 11.5 - Dick and Burks shouldn't be playing virtually the same number of minutes.

FWIW, in the seven games he's played 34+ minutes, he's averaging 22.6 ppg. Sure small sample size, but I think he's earned the opportunity to see what he can do with Hayward type minutes.

 

[fishonjazz]

Good post. First, Thriller's comment made me chuckle. If only we had a throw away season to find out - lol.

Second you are right. Hayward is shooting 41% FGs, 32% 3pt and getting 17 ppg on 14.5 shots. Burks is shooting 45% FGs and 35% 3pt and getting 13 ppg on 10 shots. The both get to the line 4.5 times a game, but Burks does it in 27 minutes while Hayward does it in 36 minutes. Burks should be the guy doing the shooting and scoring on the team. Hayward is the better all-around player of the two - he rebounds and facilitates better than Burks - let him take on that role of playmaker and reduce his shots. He also defends better, so let him focus on that.

Also, forget about 30+, let's get him in the 34-35+ range like Hayward. He has a PER of 15.5, Dick's PER is 11.5 - Dick and Burks shouldn't be playing virtually the same number of minutes.

FWIW, in the seven games he's played 34+ minutes, he's averaging 22.6 ppg. Sure small sample size, but I think he's earned the opportunity to see what he can do with Hayward type minutes.

Allah dis.

And your last paragraph answers the question of the OP in my opinion.

especially since he is only getting better.

 

[fishonjazz]

When d wade was 22 years old (his rookie year) he was averaging 35 minutes per game and 16.5 points.

Burks at 22 years old is averaging 22.6 pts per game when he gets over 34 minutes per. (Granted burks has kinda played two years in nba)
Very encouraging.

 

[mhindy]

When d wade was 22 years old (his rookie year) he was averaging 35 minutes per game and 16.5 points.

Burks at 22 years old is averaging 22.6 pts per game when he gets over 34 minutes per. (Granted burks has kinda played two years in nba)
Very encouraging.

Considering Burks generally only breaks that barrier when he is already playing well that stat isn't too surprising to me. He is getting there though. More good games than bad ones these days.

 

[fishonjazz]

Considering Burks generally only breaks that barrier when he is already playing well that stat isn't too surprising to me. He is getting there though. More good games than bad ones these days.

Kinda true....
But he had a game when hayward was out where he played 37 minutes and only scored 9 pts in a win.... in that game he played great without scoring and helped the team win without hayward

 

[Zulu]

Considering Burks generally only breaks that barrier when he is already playing well that stat isn't too surprising to me. He is getting there though. More good games than bad ones these days.

True.... But a lot of those games also came when people were injured like last light and last season!!! So in those games he was most likely to get 30+ minutes!!!

So ya Burks iz da Man!!!

 

[green]

Could you imagine Burke, Burks, Favors and Wiggins running up and down the court...

Dang. What could have been. But I guess the Jazz have figured some secret out to winning titles seeing how Boston and LAL are tanking and the Jazz aren't...

sigh.

 

[Zulu]

Could you imagine Burke, Burks, Favors and Wiggins running up and down the court...

Dang. What could have been. But I guess the Jazz have figured some secret out to winning titles seeing how Boston and LAL are tanking and the Jazz aren't...

sigh.

Trade Hayward and our pick next year for Boston's pick!!

 

[Cope]

I said it when he was drafted that he reminded me of a Young Wade. With another #1 scorer (Parker) we would have a step down of LBJ/Wade.

But those dreams have gone downhill the past 30 games.



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[bigmike]

20-25 might be a shade high, but I could see 18-20. On fairly efficient shooting %'s. There's only a handful of players who get to the basket as well as Burks does in the NBA.

Why Jefferson ever gets minutes ahead of him is beyond me.

 

[Primetime]

Here are his stats while Gordon was injured:

I hope we'll see more of the core5 together the last 20 games or so. Would love to see something like that:

Trey - playmaker and spot up shooter

Alec - #1 option

Gordon - playmaker, spot up and defensive stopper

Enes - #1 post option

Derrick - defensive anchor

It might or might not work but we would know if these kids can play at the same time and still be effective(even off the ball), we'll know if Enes/Derrick can work(we gotta know that) and we could see if Alec can be a #1 option.

just my 2 cents

 

[franklin]

Good post. First, Thriller's comment made me chuckle. If only we had a throw away season to find out - lol.

Second you are right. Hayward is shooting 41% FGs, 32% 3pt and getting 17 ppg on 14.5 shots. Burks is shooting 45% FGs and 35% 3pt and getting 13 ppg on 10 shots. The both get to the line 4.5 times a game, but Burks does it in 27 minutes while Hayward does it in 36 minutes. Burks should be the guy doing the shooting and scoring on the team. Hayward is the better all-around player of the two - he rebounds and facilitates better than Burks - let him take on that role of playmaker and reduce his shots. He also defends better, so let him focus on that.

Also, forget about 30+, let's get him in the 34-35+ range like Hayward. He has a PER of 15.5, Dick's PER is 11.5 - Dick and Burks shouldn't be playing virtually the same number of minutes.

FWIW, in the seven games he's played 34+ minutes, he's averaging 22.6 ppg. Sure small sample size, but I think he's earned the opportunity to see what he can do with Hayward type minutes.

Burks is not a good play maker. At all. He excels at in scramble situations with his relentless rim attack. He and Hayward cannot switch roles (tho I don't want Hayward in that role much either).

 

[Zulu]

Burks is not a good play maker. At all. He excels at in scramble situations with his relentless rim attack. He and Hayward cannot switch roles (tho I don't want Hayward in that role much either).

Didn't you just start a thread about his improving playmaking skillz????

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Make the stating lineup

Burke
Burks
Hayward
Kanter
Favors

Give em all 35+ mpg.

If Kanter and Favors can't coexist then great, we'll know what we have to work with in the offseason.

This is really not very hard....

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Burks is not a good play maker. At all. He excels at in scramble situations with his relentless rim attack. He and Hayward cannot switch roles (tho I don't want Hayward in that role much either).

WTF? Did I say somewhere in that post Burks is a good playmaker?

(edit) as I read my post again, I can see how you perhaps you could have been confused. I was saying Burks should be the #1 option as a scorer, but that Hayward should focus on being the playmaker. IOW, I agree with FOJ and Primetime that Hayward should be the playmaker, spot up shooter and focus on defense. Burks should be the primary scorer.

 

[fishonjazz]

Trey - playmaker and spot up shooter

Alec - #1 option

Gordon - playmaker, spot up and defensive stopper

Enes - #1 post option

Derrick - defensive anchor

It might or might not work but we would know if these kids can play at the same time and still be effective(even off the ball), we'll know if Enes/Derrick can work(we gotta know that) and we could see if Alec can be a #1 option.

just my 2 cents

This is what i have been sayin for a while now.
Glad more people are comin around

 

[fishonjazz]

Didn't you just start a thread about his improving playmaking skillz????

Frank has multiple personality disorder

 

[fishonjazz]

Make the stating lineup

Burke
Burks
Hayward
Kanter
Favors

Give em all 35+ mpg.

If Kanter and Favors can't coexist then great, we'll know what we have to work with in the offseason.

This is really not very hard....

Duh
Amirite?

 

[Doublea]

Here is Mr. Slick Pimp himself!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzxVPgXw7NA

Notice that his first couple buckets were all jumpers. Off the dribble too. To bad these highlights don't have his sweet passes too or you would see how much he's improved his playmaking ability.

Also these are his January stats: 16 pts, 4 rebs, 3 assists, while shooting 47% FG 37% 3-point

In december he was taking 11 shots and 3.5 fta, january it was 11 shots and 6 fta.

He's already passed the amount of minutes he got last year. 1137 to this year of 1276 and still a lot to play.

 

[Zulu]

Here is Mr. Slick Pimp himself!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzxVPgXw7NA

Notice that his first couple buckets were all jumpers. Off the dribble too. To bad these highlights don't have his sweet passes too or you would see how much he's improved his playmaking ability.

Also these are his January stats: 16 pts, 4 rebs, 3 assists, while shooting 47% FG 37% 3-point

In december he was taking 11 shots and 3.5 fta, january it was 11 shots and 6 fta.

He's already passed the amount of minutes he got last year. 1137 to this year of 1276 and still a lot to play.

Crazy....

My
Boi burks...,