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Locke's endless apologies for Hayward.

jope said:
I couldnt imagine focusing on my job ALL the time. even if it was to play basketball.

I wouldnt blame him for distracting himself sometimes. you're already on the road all the time, practicing everyday, games 3-4 times a week, film sessions, run throughs, press conferences, media hounding, basketball appearances, etc. and now when you go home in the free time you do get and you're supposed to do nothing but think about basketball, go to sleep, and start over? I know some guys are wired to do that, but talk about a burnout.
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Maybe Hayward doesn't really love this game, and he's only in it for the money? Some players are like that...Boozer, Amaechi, etc. If you don't truly love your job, of course you're not going to put in the extra effort and give a 110%.
 
Hantlers said:
Hayward is a better version of Mike Dunleavy.
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Just as an FYI, I didn't mean this as an insult. Dunleavy is/was a good player.

Hayward just isn't meant to be a primary option. He has more than struggled this year, but I'm cool with it, cause it should lower his price. Hayward is still a player that I want on my team, and he's still a player a team can win with, as long as he's not your primary offensive option.

Essentially, Thriller is wrong, like always.
 
akirac73 said:
Maybe Hayward doesn't really love this game, and he's only in it for the money? Some players are like that...Boozer, Amaechi, etc. If you don't truly love your job, of course you're not going to put in the extra effort and give a 110%.
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This.
 
yamers said:
yeah...so how did evans improve his shot so much?

SHOOTING COACH?

WORKED ON IT?

perhaps haystacks spends more time playing league of legends than bball? no problem brickward....just dont ask for the STACKS.
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And this.

And kanter, Favors, and Burks have all improved their shot. So why hasn't Hayward?

Pretty obvious why. Some people work hard and others don't.
 
Hantlers said:
Just as an FYI, I didn't mean this as an insult. Dunleavy is/was a good player.

Hayward just isn't meant to be a primary option. He has more than struggled this year, but I'm cool with it, cause it should lower his price. Hayward is still a player that I want on my team, and he's still a player a team can win with, as long as he's not your primary offensive option.

Essentially, Thriller is wrong, like always.
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Nice rebuttal. Hantlers offers nothing, like always. Lots of opinion but very few facts.
 
League average Above Break 3PT% this season is .353. League average Corner 3PT% this season is .384.

Gordo's Above Break 3PT% this season is .310. Gordo's Corner 3PT% this season is .245.

Gordo's Above Break 3PT% through his first 3 seasons was .393. Gordo's Corner 3PT% through his first 3 seasons was .426.


Per NBA.com's Player Tracking data, Gordo has not done a great job out of drives (for himself or his team) or on pull-ups (Synergy Sports has him scoring fairly well out of isos but not PnR's, like Alec, which may lend support for the idea that Jazz bigs do a very poor job as roll men, and are a cause of Alec and Gordo's poor efficiency shooting out of pick and rolls). If we accept that it's unlikely Gordo will turn into an effective on-ball player, then opinions about his overall value are going to be heavily influenced (IMO) by one's evaluation of Gordo's spot-up (and general off-ball) game. Is 2010-2013 Gordo or 2013/14 Gordo the true Gordo?
 
Doublea said:
2. This one is really true, Hayward last year played off the ball a lot more and got more of his shots off of assists. This year he's taking more shots of the dribble and trying to create for himself which for a player like him makes his fg% plummet.
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How many NBA players have have a better FG% unassisted vs. assisted?
 
Stoked said:
He is an ideal player to support an allstar/superstar.
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This is an article of faith that originated with Locke that has been accepted as dogma. What does an "ideal player next to a superstar" even mean? Pippen? Because he sure isn't Pippen.

Does it mean Hayward is more ideal than Leonard, DeRozan, Thompson, Ellis, Parsons, Green, Batum, a healthy Gallinari, or those types of players?

I'm not sure Hayward is better than any of those players, but that's beside the point. The point is Hayward is not the #2 wingman of a superstar, he's an interchangeable good player that a superstar can utilize to win, provided he's paid appropriately.
 
Lol at Hayward haters. Not letting any of yall back on the bandwagon when he comes back next year.
 
billyshelby said:
This is an article of faith that originated with Locke that has been accepted as dogma. What does an "ideal player next to a superstar" even mean? Pippen? Because he sure isn't Pippen.

Does it mean Hayward is more ideal than Leonard, DeRozan, Thompson, Ellis, Parsons, Green, Batum, a healthy Gallinari, or those types of players?

I'm not sure Hayward is better than any of those players, but that's beside the point. The point is Hayward is not the #2 wingman of a superstar, he's an interchangeable good player that a superstar can utilize to win, provided he's paid appropriately.
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I'd argue that Hayward wouldn't even be a #2 on most of the lottery teams in the league...At the absolute best, Hayward would be the #4 guy on a championship contending team, and a #3 on a .500 or better team.
 
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