What type of asset is Hayward?

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Why would anyone trade for him? If they really wanted him couldn't they just sign him?

Hayward is a Restricted Free Agent, so we have the right to match any contract, and probably would, unless we think Hayward is being overpaid. No one but us can just sign him.

We can move him in a sign-and-trade.

 

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That's why we love green, he loves to think huge. Ain't no way Bron is going to Boston with a young coach and a young team, even if they get Kevin Love and Hayward.

Two points:

1- LeBron is on a very, very old team. If they win it all, I don't think he leaves. If they lose...

2 - The coach is an easy fix. Fire Stephens, bring in whoever LeBron wants.

 

[Deleted member 365]

So you think Hayward is our SF? Do you watch games? Also, if they let him walk, who are they going to replace him with? You don't spend four years on a player and just let them walk. If anything, they are going to do a sign and trade with whatever team offers him the max for a pretty good haul. There are really not many players in free agency this year, and not a lot of them are as good as Hayward, let alone as young.

First of all, the exact same was said in 04. I was on this board when folks admitted that AK47 wasn't that great but said that there just wasn't anybody as good/as young. That was a huge mistake.

Where did Wes Matthews come from? Where did Paul Millsap come from? Where did Paul George come from?

There are plenty of good SF/SGs to be had. We could draft in the mid first round and find a player better than Hayward. The boy from Michigan and the Young from UK for starters. I think Early could be in that discussion as well.

The point is, Hayward is extremely replaceable. SVG's comments were a great barometer for Hayward's value no matter what the Hayward homers on this board think. Of course, there will always be some retarded franchise out there willing to shell out too much money for his services. I just hope that franchise isn't us.

Finally, draft picks are gold. You can't just trade Hayward away for a 1st rounder. And, Hayward's game no longer fits this team. We have 2 low post bigs. We need to surround them with shooters. If we want to keep Hayward then we need to unload either Favors or kanter. That's the truth. Burks you keep, he is the 1 player on this team who can create, score, and get to the line. Sorry Hayward homers, your boy doesn't do that

Cry me a river, bash me, flame me, just as you did 10 years ago ago. I've seen more Bball that you've dreamed and know a thing or two about this sport.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Hayward is a Restricted Free Agent, so we have the right to match any contract, and probably would, unless we think Hayward is being overpaid. No one but us can just sign him.

We can move him in a sign-and-trade.

Yes. Thank you capt obvious for repeating exactly what we all know.

 

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Let's just assume for a minute that last offseason's reported extension of 4yrs/$40million was very close to actual market value for Hayward. How many people here actually think he's played well enough this year to move that figure up? I don't think he has. I think it's still about right.

But, some might say that the market behaves erratically. For example, maybe someone comes with an aggressive/inflated offer to steal Hayward away or cripple us with a large contract. That might happen, but it still leaves DL with S&T options.

I just don't think this is a very difficult situation to manage: Hayward is a good piece at around 10M; we are in the driver's seat due to RFA regulations; we have some depth at Hay's position; etc.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Let's just assume for a minute that last offseason's reported extension of 4yrs/$40million was very close to actual market value for Hayward. How many people here actually think he's played well enough this year to move that figure up? I don't think he has. I think it's still about right.

But, some might say that the market behaves erratically. For example, maybe someone comes with an aggressive/inflated offer to steal Hayward away or cripple us with a large contract. That might happen, but it still leaves DL with S&T options.

I just don't think this is a very difficult situation to manage: Hayward is a good piece at around 10M; we are in the driver's seat due to RFA regulations; we have some depth at Hay's position; etc.

Gross.

Use $40 million for a real player who actually helps you.

Use the GS pick on mich's Larry bird. Or Young. Or Early.

Let Hayward walk unless he's willing to become the 6th man. He just doesn't shoot well enough or create to warrant a new contract and starter role. Burks should have been given Hayward's minutes.

 

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Gross.

Use $40 million for a real player who actually helps you.

Use the GS pick on mich's Larry bird. Or Young. Or Early.

Let Hayward walk unless he's willing to become the 6th man. He just doesn't shoot well enough or create to warrant a new contract and starter role. Burks should have been given Hayward's minutes.

I'm more in line with this thinking. He's solid, but what he's likely to fetch is probably going to set a team that's not the Lakers or Celtics back too much.

Honestly if you got Aaron Gordon and Nik Stuakaus in the draft that could be a real good get. Nik adds an outstanding floor spacer for the post and PNR action. And Gordon is the perimeter lock down defender that can disrupt the opposing teams offense.

 

[Bodhi]

I agree with a lot of what Thriller is saying regarding Hayward. There. I said it.

 

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I agree with a lot of what Thriller is saying regarding Hayward. There. I said it.

 

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Yeah. I'm with Thriller as well. Hayward will be the piece that puts a contender over the top or take an up and coming team and kills the financially, ala AK.

 

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I agree with a lot of what Thriller is saying regarding Hayward. There. I said it.

I did that once.


Regarding Hayward, I don't know what to make of him. This jazz team is a mess. A coach that is dead man walking, burks and Hayward play the same position, Favors and Enes play the same position both have limitations and flaws. Trey is overmatched every single night and I'm starting to believe that the spurs master plan was send little Cyphers as GMs and coaches into the NBA to promote tanking and rebuilding in hopes of gaining three more years for the spurs to contend.

 

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I agree with a lot of what Thriller is saying regarding Hayward. There. I said it.

wait a few weeks.