why so many of you giving up on Burke? He is our future PG, period!
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Sexual Favors
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Your ideas about who shoots well, and who doesn't are obviously not based in stats, or reality.
Trey shot 33% from 3, and 38% from the field.
nateboz
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Trey played poorly the last few months of the season. He still shot 90%+ from the line. In college he shot like 45%. I can and do blame Ty Corbin for a portion of his poor numbers. Quite often the Jazz ran terrible plays that forced Trey into bad shots at the end of the shot clock. Trey has a nice smooth release. He just needs to be better conditioned. I hope that Snyder has the tools to help put Trey in better spots. I believe in Trey.
Twin Towers
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The Jazz are not getting rid of Burke. If we draft Exum we will be trading him. So don't worry.
The Jazz don't want to create tension between players.
My guess is we either trade up or trade down. I don't think we like what is available at 5.
The Jazz don't want to create tension between players.
My guess is we either trade up or trade down. I don't think we like what is available at 5.
Sexual Favors
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He never got to the FT line.
And Trey was one of the big reasons why we were in late clock situations, not just Ty, because his pace was too damn slow. He admitted as much on locker clean out day. Fact is, his pace put the rest of our team in bad situations. Trey's lack of athleticism, mixed with lack of height are why he hasn't been able to shoot in the NBA. Trey does not have a nice, smooth release on his jumper,. He has a flat, line drive. His set shot is nice and smooth. Two different forms. He needs to work on connecting the two form.
Also, in the A. Gordon Diary thread, you called his .356 3pt % a bad #. Are you not aware that Trey averaged .367% ?
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/trey-burke-1.html
(Yes, Trey had more attempts. Not saying Trey was a bad shooter in college. Just pointing out how your claim in other thread works against you).
Doublea
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Trey is an undersized pg with a bad shot selection in his first year. I fully believe he will get a lot better. Plus he broke a finger on his shooting hand. They even said it bugged him the whole season.
I don't look towards stats in these circumstances. I look at the players shot, trey is a good shooter.
I don't look towards stats in these circumstances. I look at the players shot, trey is a good shooter.
jazzfan1971
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#1 - Trey hasn't shown me that much. I think if you ranked teh starting PGs in the league he'd be in the bottom 3. Maybe bottom 1. He may have been the best rookie last year, but that really isn't saying much. Plus, Trey got handed the minutes that players need to shine, and he didn't exactly set the world on fire.
#2 - Exum and Trey could easily play together. Exum is 6'6" and long. should be plenty of mintues for both.
#3 - I believe that Exum if there at #5 presents the highest value pick regardless of position. I'd take him at #5 if I had a young John Stockton playing the point, not because I wanted to replace John, but, because I feel drafting Exum adds the greatest value to the team.
#4 - The other options at that point in the draft would likely be Vonleh, Randle, or Gordon. While I like Vonleh and could accept Gordon, neither to me seem to be teh bpa or the best fit for the Jazz. I think Exum as a 1/2 would have a far easier time fitting into our rotation than trying to shoehorn a PF into our SF position as we'd be doing with Gordon or possibly Randle. And we dont' really NEED another PF anyway.
#5 - I just have never warmed to Trey. He's got the upside of Jameer Nelson. And that doesn't make my butterflies fly. Sorry.
#2 - Exum and Trey could easily play together. Exum is 6'6" and long. should be plenty of mintues for both.
#3 - I believe that Exum if there at #5 presents the highest value pick regardless of position. I'd take him at #5 if I had a young John Stockton playing the point, not because I wanted to replace John, but, because I feel drafting Exum adds the greatest value to the team.
#4 - The other options at that point in the draft would likely be Vonleh, Randle, or Gordon. While I like Vonleh and could accept Gordon, neither to me seem to be teh bpa or the best fit for the Jazz. I think Exum as a 1/2 would have a far easier time fitting into our rotation than trying to shoehorn a PF into our SF position as we'd be doing with Gordon or possibly Randle. And we dont' really NEED another PF anyway.
#5 - I just have never warmed to Trey. He's got the upside of Jameer Nelson. And that doesn't make my butterflies fly. Sorry.
i love his mental make up. he will be one of those tough little dude who will just get better. we don't need him to be the star. we need him to be the glue guy, a guy who control the pace, and make our future stars better.
we need him to be d fish with little bit of mike conley. that's all we need. and i think trey can be that guy. shooting will come too. historically a great FT shooter always get better in fg%.
we need him to be d fish with little bit of mike conley. that's all we need. and i think trey can be that guy. shooting will come too. historically a great FT shooter always get better in fg%.
Darkwing Duck
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I'd take Burke over Felton, Brandon Knight, Jarrett Jack, Shaun Livingston, Kendall Marshall, Collison. They all started 30+ games.
Same class as Beverly/Lin, Oladipo, Brian Roberts, Nate Wolters, Avery Bradley.
enchilada_style
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Exum's size gives the Jazz some options, he should be able to play the 2 and on days where Burke is getting eaten alive by some of the bigger PG's we can use Exum's size on the defensive side. I don't think drafting Exum is the end of Burke.
Noomskull
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I'm not in love with Burke or Exum. Burke showed signs last season but I don't believe he is the answer. He seems really immature.
I would draft Aaron Gordon then package Burke and try to land Rondo or Westbrook.
A guy can dream...