Poll: Should the Jazz Match Hayward's $15.75 a year/4 year Contract?

[l Abach l]

Here are my main reasons for not matching:
1) G Time doesn't make his teammates better. Examples are big al, millsap, and carroll all leaving and becoming better players.
2) His stats were inflated last year. If you can't see that then your thumb is up your ***. People say, "but he was one of five players who averaged 15-5-5.." He also had the ball in his hand 95% of every offensive possession. He had more opportunity to create assists, and also to score. The results were pretty on his stat sheet, but also the worst record in the west. (15-5-5 shooting horrifically from the 3)
3) I believe exum will run the offense, which will decrease G's stats. Sire, his fg% might go up, but his assists and ppg will level off to pre last year numbers.
4) If burks and kanter do well next year and we pay big money for them, that's basically our salary cap til we extenf exum.
5) AK all over. Just because we have money doesn't mean we need to spend money
6) jazz were ****ing TERRIBLE last year with Gordon as the #1 option. Why in the hell would we reward that ???

 

[Spaniard]

He's been in the league long enough that we know who he is. Those who are expecting more out of his potential are going to be disappointed. Remember when we gave AK that contract, expecting that he would only get better and better? Not only did he not get any better, he actually regressed.

I don't think you look at GH for what "he could be", you have to look at who he is. I agree that Corbin was not a good coach, but there were times when GH was the worst player on the floor simply because he couldn't make a wide open shot. Remember teams daring him to shoot? That is who he is. I was intrigued to see what the new coaching staff could get out of him but I don't think it's worth the risk of him playing like a 8M to 10M player when we're paying him 16M.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

Ah screw it. I change my vote to yes, we should match. The first time this will really truly affect us is next summer when we want to re-sign Burks and Kanter. We would have about 38M tied up in Gordo, Favors, Burke and Gobert, assuming we pick up the team options on the latter two. If we pay Kanter and Burks a combined 22M (do we really think someone is paying them 11M each? I don't), we're then at 60M for the core six along with another say 4M for our rookie 1st next season, plus Hood, which brings us to about 65M for our core eight. Since this coming season's cap is supposed to be around 63.2M, I would guess the season after would be above that 65M figure.

I guess, in short, what I'm saying is that we should be just fine retaining this core this season, the one after as illustrated, and even after that.

**** it. Match this clown.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Here are my main reasons for not matching:
1) G Time doesn't make his teammates better. Examples are big al, millsap, and carroll all leaving and becoming better players.

What?

 

[fishonjazz]

Let me simplify it for you:

Burks: "Yo Lindsay Gordon got $15.75M annually, I want at least 13!"
Lindsay: "I don't care, get someone to sign you to that amount."
Burks Agent: "None has that amount of cap space and wants to invest that much into you"
Burks: "OK $9M annually it is, but I'm a sad panda now"

Actuallu i heard espn saying that even more teams will have lots of cap space and be more willing to spend next year since the cap is going up.

And bosh, wade, lebron, melo wont be free agents so teams will have to spend thier money on lesser players (like burks)

 

[ema]

We can steal Luol Deng from other teams with less money than the Gordo-Max. I'd rather overpay Deng instead of maxing Hayward.

 

[franklin]

This is going to be a no-brainer after the new TV deal is signed. Glad for a forward looking DL who isn't caught up in the fan reaction to a dollar figure rather than realities of the business.

 

[Deleted member 365]

At any point last year did you see Gordon and say, "damn! We need to pay this great player the max! He's in the same category as Lebron and KD"?

No?

Ok, then that's your answer as to whether we should pay him the max.

 

[franklin]

Actuallu i heard espn saying that even more teams will have lots of cap space and be more willing to spend next year since the cap is going up.

And bosh, wade, lebron, melo wont be free agents so teams will have to spend thier money on lesser players (like burks)

I guess we shouldn't pay Hayward this year because maybe someone will blow Burks away with a $9,000,000 offer sheet next summer. What a silly stance to take.

 

[Deleted member 365]

We can steal Luol Deng from other teams with less money than the Gordo-Max. I'd rather overpay Deng instead of maxing Hayward.

Totally agree. Unlike Hayward, Deng can hit the 3 and play defense.

 

[The Pearl]

At any point last year did you see Gordon and say, "damn! We need to pay this great player the max! He's in the same category as Lebron and KD"?

No?

Ok, then that's your answer as to whether we should pay him the max.

You are correct in that GH is not worth the max. A question or two for you than.... Assuming DL is not a complete lunatic and is somewhat competent, why do you think he is adamant about matching?

 

[GVC]

Like I said a few times already, that money that will go to Hayward wouldn't/couldn't be used to bring in someone better because no one signs with the Jazz.

This has been covered multiple times. The Jazz HAVE signed quality free agents when they've had cap space: Last offseason they traded the space for picks, in 2004 they signed Boozer and Memo, in 2003 they signed Corey Maggette and Jason Terry to offer sheets (that were matched). The Jazz have rarely had significant cap space over the last 20 years.