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Jazz4ever said:
A bit of revisionist history here. The Jazz got Gobert merely as a value pick at #27. If DL was that high on him would have not done the Burke trade and taken him either 14 or 21.
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DL is not going to waste a higher pick if he believes he is falling further. And DL had a hierarchy of needs and PG was clearly a priority. So the Burke trade tells us nothing about how DL felt about Gobert.
 
Jazz4ever said:
A bit of revisionist history here. The Jazz got Gobert merely as a value pick at #27. If DL was that high on him would have not done the Burke trade and taken him either 14 or 21.
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Not revisionist at all. Go back and read pre-draft reports. Lindsey talked about a "sleeper" who was an international player. That was when I started to look at Gobert more closely. Jazz probably would have taken him at #21. But a) Minnesota was willing to trade their pick; b) Burke was projected to go higher and fell and c) Utah's greatest need was a PG. So, as silesian said, DL goes for the player who can come in and be an immediate starter...a legit top-10 pick at the time.

Having lost the 21st pick, Lindsey then made a trade to acquire the 27th from Denver. Would he have made that same trade had Gobert been off the board? Judging from the picks right after #27, we can be thankful Gobert was still there and Dennis was able to get him.

Maybe you could argue Lindsey was referring to Dieng, Karasev or even Noguiera as the underrated international player. I think he was talking about Gobert.
 
Jazz4ever said:
A bit of revisionist history here. The Jazz got Gobert merely as a value pick at #27. If DL was that high on him would have not done the Burke trade and taken him either 14 or 21.
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I recall hearing DL say the next day after the draft that we had planned on taking Gobert at #21 in the first place. Then we traded up so he was off the board. DL liked him enough that he convinced management to 'go get him' and the rest is history. What could we have picked with 14 that would have been better than Trey Burke? Not much. DL turns $1.00 into $1.25 every time he breaths.
 
Cool! Sounds like Gobert is ready to roll!

So who's the crappy vet we can play ahead of him to drive jazzfanz crazy? Can't wait to see posters like stoked and lunatic wolf regurgitate Locke's vomit as to why Gobert barely gets any burn this next year.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I recall hearing DL say the next day after the draft that we had planned on taking Gobert at #21 in the first place. Then we traded up so he was off the board. DL liked him enough that he convinced management to 'go get him' and the rest is history. What could we have picked with 14 that would have been better than Trey Burke? Not much. DL turns $1.00 into $1.25 every time he breaths.
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Antetokuonmpo and Gobert > Burke and Gobert
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I recall hearing DL say the next day after the draft that we had planned on taking Gobert at #21 in the first place. Then we traded up so he was off the board. DL liked him enough that he convinced management to 'go get him' and the rest is history. What could we have picked with 14 that would have been better than Trey Burke? Not much. DL turns $1.00 into $1.25 every time he breaths.
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The Greek Freak, Giannas A.
 
fishonjazz said:
Was giannis available at 14?
I don't remember
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I thought he went at 15. Both him and Schroeder were the top two guys that I liked at that spot because of their youth and athleticism.

If the Jazz stay at 14 though, I'm pretty sure they would have taken Shabazz Muhammad. Just a gut feeling.
 
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