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Really sad story out of Texas

https://www.bobjarvis.com/Actual-Cases.shtml



Care to guess the race of Mr. Hicks?

After searching several pages, I could not find one black person tried for killing a police officer who was not given the death sentence.



No one said it was "based on racist motivations". Using that standard is like SCOTUS claiming the only sort of corruption is quid-pro-quo.

You are very clearly implying that. Way to contradict your own post.
 
Dear OneBrow,
I find the experience of "communicating" with you to be a ridiculous exercise. It appears to me that you are so committed to your conclusion that you cannot see anything wrong with altering the facts to make your opinion appear to be even more justified. You play loose with the truth and you use analogies that are flawed and ridiculous.

For example, in your most recent response to me you equated misstating facts in this case with people saying their sports team won a championship before the playoffs had started. I don't even know what you are talking about with that. Who says their team won the championship before they win it? I don't know of anyone. Cheering to win the championship is not even close to the same as claiming to win the championship, BTW. So you are justifying the use of incorrect facts to support your case with an analogy that, if instances of it actually exist, is so rare that any sane sports fan who saw people behaving that way would say, "What the hell is wrong with you people?" Your previous analogy regarding the death penalty and starting a car was even more ridiculous. Because of your strange tactics there's simply no point in wasting pixels discussing things with you.

Here, though, is the bottom line. I think that racism is a legitimate problem and I think we as a society should strive to improve things. I do not know for certain what role racism played in the case we were discussing, but I think there is a good chance that it played some. I would be interested to find out the true details instead of your made up facts. Unfortunately the effort to solve these sorts of problems is being severely harmed by people who use the sorts of tactics that you and Highland Homie do to advance it. The habit of some people, like yourself, of looking at skin color and then using it as a lens through which to adjust all of the other related facts is, in my opinion, extremely racist. Goodbye.
 
So, this is a free tutorial on mental math.

When you have a complex or overwhelming problem, break it into manageable pieces. . . . just like you would when facing a big two pound steak, which I am sure you can readily relate to, with apetite.

If you want "per cent" in the answer, first move the decimal point in the top part, the numerator, two places to the right, and forget it until you write your answer, then write the answer and add "per cent". Or better yet, do it later when you decide to call your answer "per cent".

Your problem is how to reduce 50,000 divided by 314,000,000. And since of course, the thirty million human beings who are totally occluded from American society on account of their status as slaves to billionaire outfits like packing houses and casinos, are never subjected to these raids, we will of course stay with the legal math. . . .

Divide top and bottom of the ratio by 10,000, and you have 5 divided by 31,400. Divide by 5 on top and bottom and you get 1 over. . . .damn there's a hard one, 31400 divide by 5. I don't like fives. tens are easier, so I multiply by two and divide by 10, same thing as dividing by 5, gives me 6280.

one over 6280. hmmmmm. . . . that's bigger than one over 10000, so already I know the answer will be bigger than .0001 smaller than one over 500, so less than .0002. Here's where twelve years in college and five years doing bookkeeping work give me the perfect set of skills for solving a problem. . . . . probably the only place where the Venn Diagram of college quantum mechanics and bookkeeping overlaps. . . .

625 is 25 times 25, btw. And 5/8 is .625 by the way, 6250 is a mere 3 parts of 6250 more than 625. So I'll use the easy number, and add the proportional parts later.

So 6280 on the bottom is the same thing as 5/8 times 10000, plus 3. all on the bottom. I take the 5/8 on the bottom to the top by writing it 8/5, and that gives me 1.6 divide by 10000. That's nearly in decimal form. . . .

.00016, plus that 3 additional parts of the 6250. which is on the order of 1 part of 208.3333, of .00016, added to .00016: slightly more than another .000005. . . .

I don't know if approximation is good enough. . . . doesn't answer in rocket science, but hell, in government work whole orders of magnitude won't make a politician blink.

The answer is .000160513

well, in per cent that would be 0.0160513 per cent. As anyone with marginal common sense and experience in life knows, we're talking about something that will happen in a given year, and over a lifetime, if people live six thousand years, this is something that's gonna happen to you. Over a ten year span, it will happen to one person out of 628. If the exponential increase in the rate continues another ten years, and then the next ten years again, we'll have half our workforce out doing swat no-knocks.

I don't even have a calculator. I'm a slide rule man. Yep, still have in my holster. So you'd better take my word for it.

and trout, if you're still with me, no your humor didn't just go zing over my head.

It's not the imminent fear of a no-knock swat attack on my home that I'd consider in forming my opinions of the police. It's the gung ho newby cops out in the rain running radar and causing traffic accidents as morons hit the brakes on slick roads. Justice Court revenue agents pretending to be "judges" are an indictment against our whole system of government. Government agents out on the highways creating traffic hazards and causing the deaths of motorists, of little babies mind you. . . . . Where are the Ad Council ads showing the mangled babe being pried from the wreckage, invoking in high moralistic tones. "Not one more babe. . . . no not one."

and for any potential future math genius out there, try multiplying my answer by 314,000,000.

The .0001 gives 31,140

The .00006 gives 18,684 adds up to 49,824. Probably already in the range of the statistical confidence level of the 50,000 figure, given errors, unreported stuff, and all that. . . .

The .0000005 gives 156, bringing us up to 49,980.

And the .000000013 gives us the last 20, for 50,000.

I've got a choice. . . . what to do with my life. . . . do math in my head, or jack up some political crusade. . . . .

hey, hey why not just do both.

I thought you had boobs? Big ones.

Edit: nm. I'm thinking Pearl. Big ones.


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boobs

ya, I got boobs, big ones. Pearl's hubby has boobs too, but I have no idea of scale. Boobs are boobs. They're good for two things. . . . well, make it three at least. First they produce oxytocin as a reaction to suckling or other touch sorts of notions under appropriate circumstances. Walk up to chick you don't know, without introduction or explanation and start motorboating and I bet first you get knocked across the sidewalk and in front of oncoming traffic in the street. Second, you will be arrested and charged with rape. On the other hand, apparently, if you smile and indulge in some small talk pleasantries, deploy some discretionary funds to show you care for the woman, and properly observe facial expressions and sentiments, it can bring some positive responses. If you're a guy and you can't process such logical consequences successfully, let's just call you a candidate for the Darwin Prize. Besides oxytocin, the next product, in a time line sequence, is that boobs produce milk for babes. I love milk. I get mine from my small herd of cows now, mostly.

The third thing boobs are good for is showing intellectually marginal males who the girls are. If you're really smart, you can see some other clues and figure it out even if the boobs are relatively small. Some morons speculate that big boobs are more fun, and it is reasonable to project that since smarter males can see women whose boobs don't obscure the landscape, and probably selectively breed with smaller boob size women, women with smaller boobs are more likely to produce smarter babes. Size doesn't strongly correlate with milk production, or female breeding capacity, so my observation of inverse correlation with boob size and intelligence is likely accurate on a statistical significance level of 1.0 or larger.

I find it pretty nice to have my boobs attractively displayed by my wife, on a pretty private basis.

I am doing a statistical survey on the male response curve, respectively, to complex mental math operations, and discussions about female attractions. Vote which one you appreciate the most by rep'ing the appropriate discussion.

Thank you.

uhhhhmmmmm. . . .. back to the topic of inequities in our law enforcement and judicial systems, and jury selection methods. I think blacks should compensate for whte bigotry and prejudices by creating a positive culture around jury duty, like young pre-teen black women do with trophy babes. Make it cool to get on a jury, and pretty soon you will have juries that will no longer be so biased against blacks. . . . uhhhhhmmmmmm. . . . wait . . . . check that. That change agenda item might backfire. Lots of black women are highly critical if not downright pissed off at black men, and maybe they'd be doing a lot of retribution. . . . .

better work on the jury duty initative with the guilt-stricken white rich males. . . . .
 
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You are very clearly implying that. Way to contradict your own post.

basis (dictionary.com):
1. the bottom or base of anything; the part on which something stands or rests.
2. anything upon which something is based; fundamental principle; groundwork.
3. the principal constituent; fundamental ingredient.

influence (dictionary.com):
1. the capacity or power of persons or things to be a compelling force on or produce effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of others: He used family influence to get the contract.
2. the action or process of producing effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of another or others: Her mother's influence made her stay.

Again, no one said it was based on racist motivations. However, racism does influence the result.
 
Dear OneBrow,
I find the experience of "communicating" with you to be a ridiculous exercise. It appears to me that you are so committed to your conclusion that you cannot see anything wrong with altering the facts to make your opinion appear to be even more justified. You play loose with the truth and you use analogies that are flawed and ridiculous.

For example, in your most recent response to me you equated misstating facts in this case with people saying their sports team won a championship before the playoffs had started. I don't even know what you are talking about with that. Who says their team won the championship before they win it? I don't know of anyone. Cheering to win the championship is not even close to the same as claiming to win the championship, BTW. So you are justifying the use of incorrect facts to support your case with an analogy that, if instances of it actually exist, is so rare that any sane sports fan who saw people behaving that way would say, "What the hell is wrong with you people?" Your previous analogy regarding the death penalty and starting a car was even more ridiculous. Because of your strange tactics there's simply no point in wasting pixels discussing things with you.

Here, though, is the bottom line. I think that racism is a legitimate problem and I think we as a society should strive to improve things. I do not know for certain what role racism played in the case we were discussing, but I think there is a good chance that it played some. I would be interested to find out the true details instead of your made up facts. Unfortunately the effort to solve these sorts of problems is being severely harmed by people who use the sorts of tactics that you and Highland Homie do to advance it. The habit of some people, like yourself, of looking at skin color and then using it as a lens through which to adjust all of the other related facts is, in my opinion, extremely racist. Goodbye.

JoeBagadonuts,

I don't find your points in this conversation particularly relevant or illuminating; you've just been arguing long diversion and avoiding the serious truths. Your central theme has been saying that referring to the extremely likely outcome of a capital sentence as something that is fait accompli, before the sentence is actually handed down, is somehow so egregious that you can't ever trust HighlandHomie, as if you trusted him so much on this topic before he made that post. You are engaging in post hoc rationalizations to justify your ignoring the more serious truths here.

Also, you are accusing me of playing fast and loose with the truth, and I'll wager you can't take hold of one sentence I've made in this entire thread that does so. I've already acknowledged that the original post had hyperbole/anticipation. However, you have also distorted it into your own personal straw man, so you can dismiss it.

From the original post:
Whites are lauded and celebrated for killing unarmed blacks for 'standing their ground'. Blacks get the death penalty.

From you second response in this thread:
As for you making no unfounded claims, how about your assertion that someone has gotten the death penalty in this situation?

Now where, precisely, does HighlandHomie say that Guy has already gotten the death penalty? To any reasonable reader, HighlandHomie is making a prediction about the case, in much the same way a Spurs fan might say the Spurs will be 2014-15 champions.

I'm glad you have decided to waste no further pixels in this discussion. I would have preferred if you had mad that decision back on page 1, when you lied about what HighlandHomie wrote to make your point. You also have also lied about my making up facts.

If you are really so interested in the true details of this case, there are many articles about it on the internet. It seems that over a few days and several pages, you could not bother with a Google search, but now you are suddenly so eager to get facts? Meanwhile, you again lie about my making up facts.

So, thank you so much for your opinion. When I really want the opinion of someone who creates straw man, mischaracterizes what is said, and calls me a liar in the process, I guess I'll have to find someone else. Such a shame.
 
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