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The Playoff Odds from ESPN currently have the Jazz winning 28 games by the end of the season. A lot of us predicted 35 wins. We were probably a little optimistic, but 30 wins is not out of the realm of possibility.

https://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

The good thing about this season so far, is that we have the chance to see who are keepers, and who is not. For example, Hayward is killing it, and Favors is proving to be decently awesome. On a good team, Hayward would be an all star, and Favors would get consideration with the numbers they are putting up. It looks like Gobert and Exum have potential to be keepers, the jury is still out on everyone else.
 
b_line said:
The Playoff Odds from ESPN currently have the Jazz winning 28 games by the end of the season. A lot of us predicted 35 wins. We were probably a little optimistic, but 30 wins is not out of the realm of possibility.

https://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

The good thing about this season so far, is that we have the chance to see who are keepers, and who is not. For example, Hayward is killing it, and Favors is proving to be decently awesome. On a good team, Hayward would be an all star, and Favors would get consideration with the numbers they are putting up. It looks like Gobert and Exum have potential to be keepers, the jury is still out on everyone else.
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According to this we have the same chance of making the playoffs as the Sixers and TWolves. Zero. One projection has the Jazz going 12-70. Now that is a tank of epic proporitions.
 
homeytennis said:
According to this we have the same chance of making the playoffs as the Sixers and TWolves. Zero. One projection has the Jazz going 12-70. Now that is a tank of epic proporitions.
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Pretty sure no one thought we would make the playoffs. The 12-70 projection is worst case. The t wolves worst case is 6-76, and the sixers worst case is 3-79. We are terrible, but those teams seem to be historically terrible.
 
Top-5 pick is what I'm hoping for. Don't want anyone getting hurt, though. Anyone work in a restaurant that Favors or Hayward frequent? Maybe some bad fish would do the trick.
 
I'd guess we'll get better as the season goes along. Let's say we end up with the 7th pick. Is this too high for WCS? What are people's thoughts on him? Best comparison? From what I recall from his freshman year, he reminded me of Tyson Chandler a bit.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
I'd guess we'll get better as the season goes along. Let's say we end up with the 7th pick. Is this too high for WCS? What are people's thoughts on him? Best comparison? From what I recall from his freshman year, he reminded me of Tyson Chandler a bit.
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I think he's projected to go in the bottom half of the 1st round. Stock has really dropped. PKM can probably elaborate better, but it seems like WCS didn't show much improvement from his freshman to sophomore season. I think there will be better options in the 6-8 range.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jazz trade this pick for a player if the right deal comes along. Utah already has a lot of youngsters on the team. They'll also have cap room. It's time to start trading assets for talent.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jazz trade this pick for a player if the right deal comes along. Utah already has a lot of youngsters on the team. They'll also have cap room. It's time to start trading assets for talent.
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This seems like a solid draft to me with 5 players that could easily go #1.

Emmanuel Mudiay
Jahlil Okafor
Karl-Anthony Towns
Myles Turner
Stanley Johnson

Last season there were 3 players that realistically could have went #1. One got injured and still everyone was saying that draft was the best since like Lebron-Melo-Bosh-Wade. This one I think could rival that, especially when it comes to "bigs," so I hope Utah does not trade their pick if it lands in the top 5.

(Although, I do hope Utah somehow makes the playoffs and is not in the lottery.)
 
Stifle Tower said:
I think he's projected to go in the bottom half of the 1st round. Stock has really dropped. PKM can probably elaborate better, but it seems like WCS didn't show much improvement from his freshman to sophomore season. I think there will be better options in the 6-8 range.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jazz trade this pick for a player if the right deal comes along. Utah already has a lot of youngsters on the team. They'll also have cap room. It's time to start trading assets for talent.
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I thought he was a projected top ten pick.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
This seems like a solid draft to me with 5 players that could easily go #1.

Emmanuel Mudiay
Jahlil Okafor
Karl-Anthony Towns
Myles Turner
Stanley Johnson

Last season there were 3 players that realistically could have went #1. One got injured and still everyone was saying that draft was the best since like Lebron-Melo-Bosh-Wade. This one I think could rival that, especially when it comes to "bigs," so I hope Utah does not trade their pick if it lands in the top 5.

(Although, I do hope Utah somehow makes the playoffs and is not in the lottery.)
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Last year's draft was much ballyhooed, but it really didn't live up to the pre-season hype. A few players disappointed during the college season and dropped. I'd say the crop looks just as strong this year.

As for a trade, it would obviously need to be top-3 protected and involve an all-star coming over. If Brooklyn misses the playoffs do they blow up the team? I'd trade Trey and the #8 pick for Deron.
 
Yes, play offs...
As in the Jazz play off 3PT shooters and let them launch uncontested shots. It's working so well!
 
Perhaps I'm wildly optimistic, naïve, or stupid, but I still think the Jazz will win over 30 games. Their schedule has to be in the top 5 or so this year in terms of its brutalness. That stuff will even out, and the players will become more comfortable in the system.

At least I hope so.
 
Nate505 said:
Perhaps I'm wildly optimistic, naïve, or stupid, but I still think the Jazz will win over 30 games. Their schedule has to be in the top 5 or so this year in terms of its brutalness. That stuff will even out, and the players will become more comfortable in the system.

At least I hope so.
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Yep. We are still bad at basketball though.
 
The good news is that the Lakers and Charlotte are #2 and #3 so they should also start winning more games.

Just a thought, but shouldn't our SOS always be relatively high given that we play more games in the WC and only Minnesota and the Lakers are bad? OKC will likely be a .500 team before too long and the other non-playoff teams (Sacramento, New Orleans and Denver are right around .500). Conversely, the EC only has 6 teams over .500.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Just a thought, but shouldn't our SOS always be relatively high given that we play more games in the WC and only Minnesota and the Lakers are bad? OKC will likely be a .500 team before too long and the other non-playoff teams (Sacramento, New Orleans and Denver are right around .500). Conversely, the EC only has 6 teams over .500.
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Yep. The Jazz will mechanically have one of the 3 toughest schedules this season (as one of the worst WC teams).



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Nate505 said:
Perhaps I'm wildly optimistic, naïve, or stupid, but I still think the Jazz will win over 30 games. Their schedule has to be in the top 5 or so this year in terms of its brutalness. That stuff will even out, and the players will become more comfortable in the system.

At least I hope so.
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I saw a chart the other day that shows the Jazz, by seasons end, will have an even harder SOS.

It's only getting harder from here.
 
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