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Enes Kanter for Otto Porter II

Would You Trade Kanter for Porter?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 25.0%

  • No

    Votes: 19 67.9%

  • I'd give my first born child and Kanter for Porter

    Votes: 2 7.1%
  • Total voters
    28
Prediction:
Jazz will extend the QO to Kanter as insurance while they're negotiating with FA's. They will then rescind the QO to Kanter in order to sign Millsap to a max deal. DMC will be offered the MLE with a player opt-out in the second year (so he and Utah can renegotiate a new deal under the higher cap). This board will be flooded with "Fire DL" posts because he let Kanter go for nothing.
 
NAOS said:
Even if Enes plays like he has for these past 15 games for the rest of this season, I'm almost certain that any GM would be sweating bullets waiting to see his offer sheet. Enes is still really raw, and this contract is going to feel uncomfortable/risky. The luxury with Porter is that you buy yourself some time before that next contract + he frees up a spot for Rudy in the starting lineup + Porter could very well be an excellent player in a position of need (we fuggin NEED perimeter defense, braugh).
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Enes is raw. He has been. But the truth is: he is less raw today because of the time we have dedicated to developing him. Why trade him for a guy like Porter who hasn't even proven he'll stay in the league? Do you want to watch Enes get better on another team? He has gotten better every year. He is still young, and still has about three seasons until he is 25, which is when you really know what you have with a big man. With his contract expiring, no trade would/could come close to fetching his value.

If he gets a big contract, it's not that risky, the cap is exploding. The risk is in not signing him and telling your fans that you are letting him go for nothing, when you already let an all-star, and an all NBA 3rd team player walk so you could develop him and then afford to pay him.

I am a Kanter homer, but I do have an objective side to me. There may come a time when we trade him to find a better piece for the team, but let's do that when he is worth more. It's stupid to buy high and sell low, and that's what Cy is suggesting with this.

NAOS said:
Enes had a string of relatively good games, but his jumper has really fallen off lately. So, the love affair for Kanter is really based on about 10-12 games. Do you feel comfortable inking him if he only shows these glimpses? <-- I'm asking everybody this question. And I'm asking the non-homer version of Sexual Favors, if there is such a thing.
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I feel very comfortable inking Kanter for the reasons I listed above.

As for his jumper, here are some stats to keep in mind:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kanteen01/shooting/2015/

Did you realize in the month of December he shot 40% from 3pt land? His first year doing this in the NBA, and you somehow perceive that as bad!?

Did you also know that he is shooting better from 10-16 on the year than Dirk!?!?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nowitdi01/shooting/2015/


You should also know that Kanter is our only big that shoots above 70% from the FT line. In fact, he shoots 81%! This is very important when you think about the games that came down to making FT's. Compare his % to our next best big, Rudy, at 67%,, Derrick at 65%, and Trevor at 61%.

In fact,Enes beats out both Gordon and Trey with his FT%.
 
Sexual Favors said:
If he gets a big contract, it's not that risky, the cap is exploding. The risk is in not signing him and telling your fans that you are letting him go for nothing, when you already let an all-star, and an all NBA 3rd team player walk so you could develop him and then afford to pay him.

I am a Kanter homer, but I do have an objective side to me. There may come a time when we trade him to find a better piece for the team, but let's do that when he is worth more. It's stupid to buy high and sell low, and that's what Cy is suggesting with this.
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^Gets it.
 
Cy said:
Selling Kanter for Porter is selling high. Way high.
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I agree. Selling Kanter for Porter would be selling high. As in DL would have to be high on drugs.
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Sexual Favors said:
Enes is raw. He has been. But the truth is: he is less raw today because of the time we have dedicated to developing him. Why trade him for a guy like Porter who hasn't even proven he'll stay in the league? Do you want to watch Enes get better on another team? He has gotten better every year. He is still young, and still has about three seasons until he is 25, which is when you really know what you have with a big man. With his contract expiring, no trade would/could come close to fetching his value.

If he gets a big contract, it's not that risky, the cap is exploding. The risk is in not signing him and telling your fans that you are letting him go for nothing, when you already let an all-star, and an all NBA 3rd team player walk so you could develop him and then afford to pay him.

I am a Kanter homer, but I do have an objective side to me. There may come a time when we trade him to find a better piece for the team, but let's do that when he is worth more. It's stupid to buy high and sell low, and that's what Cy is suggesting with this.



I feel very comfortable inking Kanter for the reasons I listed above.

As for his jumper, here are some stats to keep in mind:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kanteen01/shooting/2015/

Did you realize in the month of December he shot 40% from 3pt land? His first year doing this in the NBA, and you somehow perceive that as bad!?

Did you also know that he is shooting better from 10-16 on the year than Dirk!?!?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nowitdi01/shooting/2015/


You should also know that Kanter is our only big that shoots above 70% from the FT line. In fact, he shoots 81%! This is very important when you think about the games that came down to making FT's. Compare his % to our next best big, Rudy, at 67%,, Derrick at 65%, and Trevor at 61%.

In fact,Enes beats out both Gordon and Trey with his FT%.
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Good post.

But, lemme just say: I'm confused by some of the stats on that sheet. For example, it says Enes is converting 46.7% of his shots from 10 to 16ft. But then it says that he's converting 37.1% of his jump shots (as opposed to dunks, hook shots, lay-ups, and tip shots). What other kind of shot is taking from 10 to 16ft if not a jump shot? Help?
 
NAOS said:
Good post.

But, lemme just say: I'm confused by some of the stats on that sheet. For example, it says Enes is converting 46.7% of his shots from 10 to 16ft. But then it says that he's converting 37.1% of his jump shots (as opposed to dunks, hook shots, lay-ups, and tip shots). What other kind of shot is taking from 10 to 16ft if not a jump shot? Help?
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46.7 is jumpshots from 10ft to 16ft only. 37.1 is jumpshots from everywhere. I'm guessing.
 
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