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Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

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One Brow said:
Right, people are talking about it. Got that. The question was, "How are the Democrats interfering?". Surely, you are not claiming talking about an investigation is interfering with it, are you?
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OMG. Do I really have to spell every little thing out for you multiple times? Think back to why I made this comment. Others were making the point that Trump's complaints about being investigated were interference because if he didn't have something to hide why would he care? I pointed out that the same logic should be applied to the democrats who were claiming that the investigators should not be investigated. It's that simple. Since then you and others have tried to parse it a hundred different ways. I'm not going to walk you through it again. If you can't see the irony then too bad for you.
 
One Brow said:
The CNN banner is wrong (no surprise).

Lichtman's keys don't predict the winner of the Electoral College, just that of the popular vote. He didn't predict Trump's win in 2016, he did predict Clinton's popular vote victory. His keys are currently predicting Trump will win the popular vote in 2020.
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Lichtman did predict a Trump win.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Fixed.
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Agree to disagree.
Annoyance shouldn't lead to obstruction of justice.

If I was being investigated for a crime that I knew I was innocent then I would definitely be annoyed.

Wouldn't **** with the investigation though cause that would be really stupid.
Then again Trump is quite stupid

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fishonjazz said:
Agree to disagree.
Annoyance shouldn't lead to obstruction of justice.

If I was being investigated for a crime that I knew I was innocent then I would definitely be annoyed.

Wouldn't **** with the investigation though cause that would be really stupid.
Then again Trump is quite stupid

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I think it's impossible to judge Trump by a normal person's standards. He is not normal at all. And I get that you would not make the same sorts of decisions he has (neither would I) but it is pretty crazy to categorize him as stupid. If you didn't hate him so much I think you could see that he's been incredibly successful in a wide variety of different endeavors.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
OMG. Do I really have to spell every little thing out for you multiple times? Think back to why I made this comment. Others were making the point that Trump's complaints about being investigated were interference because if he didn't have something to hide why would he care? I pointed out that the same logic should be applied to the democrats who were claiming that the investigators should not be investigated. It's that simple. Since then you and others have tried to parse it a hundred different ways. I'm not going to walk you through it again. If you can't see the irony then too bad for you.
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It is not questionable that Russia interfered in the 2016 election. While investigating, they had enough evidence, circumstantial evidence to get a federal judge to sign off on wiretaps of Donald Trump and his cohorts being investigated. And there was a LOT of circumstantial evidence(which can be leads) that should be concerning, and should have be investigated.

In the case of investigators, there's a couple vague text messages that show they were aware leaks from crossfire hurricane(what they were working on) could be politically motivated and leveraged.

Are the two the same?
 
Harambe said:
It is not questionable that Russia interfered in the 2016 election. While investigating, they had enough evidence, circumstantial evidence to get a federal judge to sign off on wiretaps of Donald Trump and his cohorts being investigated. And there was a LOT of circumstantial evidence(which can be leads) that should be concerning, and should have be investigated.

In the case of investigators, there's a couple vague text messages that show they were aware leaks from crossfire hurricane(what they were working on) could be politically motivated and leveraged.

Are the two the same?
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They are not the same. Your description of the things they are investigating in the case of the investigators is not even close to complete, either. And one of the things they are looking at is whether there really was enough evidence that a federal judge should have signed off on the spying of the Trump campaign. If the FBI under Bush had spied on the Obama campaign I don't think I would have to explain why this sort of stuff matters. I wouldn't need to anyway because Thriller would be having a conniption over it and screaming from the rafters about what a miscarriage of justice the entire fiasco was.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
They are not the same. Your description of the things they are investigating in the case of the investigators is not even close to complete, either. And one of the things they are looking at is whether there really was enough evidence that a federal judge should have signed off on the spying of the Trump campaign. If the FBI under Bush had spied on the Obama campaign I don't think I would have to explain why this sort of stuff matters. I wouldn't need to anyway because Thriller would be having a conniption over it and screaming from the rafters about what a miscarriage of justice the entire fiasco was.
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Change my mind. I JUST, minutes ago, eyeballed the wiki's for it. No, that's not enough, so I clicked a bunch of the links at the bottom, too. Many were not from a biased source.

Help me see it your way.
 
How does this make any sense? And this guy is in charge of the executive branch?



What do the courts have to do with impeachment? He clearly doesn’t understand. Then his definition includes, “high crimes AND misdemeanors?” Oooookay. Lastly, he said that Russia wasn’t involved? That’s not what Mueller has said.

@Stoked I’m being hateful again! Better come into this thread and bash me.
 
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str8line said:
Be funny to dose him with a hit of acid just to see how he'd handle it. He would totally lose his ****.
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Ever hear of the Overview effect? It's something astronauts talk about, what they experience looking at Earth from space. Seems to be a transformative experience, and for the better. There's a number of world leaders could use a few orbits.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
OMG. Do I really have to spell every little thing out for you multiple times? Think back to why I made this comment. Others were making the point that Trump's complaints about being investigated were interference because if he didn't have something to hide why would he care?
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Literally no one is claiming that. No one thinks that Trump's tweets/speeches interfered with Mueller's investigation/count as obstruction. Do you really have no idea of what Trump actually did?
 
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