So we could end up with 3 solid rotation players if we split the $17 million from Favors on a couple of guys and then use the room MLE. I think that's the way we should go, especially since we still need to add more shooting and depth to the roster.
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So we could end up with 3 solid rotation players if we split the $17 million from Favors on a couple of guys and then use the room MLE. I think that's the way we should go, especially since we still need to add more shooting and depth to the roster.
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wait, are currently over or under the cap? i can't keep all this straight
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We are and will operate under the cap... end of story.
This is a fun game, I think I keep Favors and try and sign Avery Bradley and Wilson Chandler for vet min. Then use the Room exception on JaMychal Green.
But I also think those prices are off on a bunch of players but wow would that be great to get those three and keep who we have.
Conley Exum Neto
Mitchell Bradley
Ingles Royce Chandler
Favors JaMychal
Gobert Favors Bradley
Fill in our our 2nds and whoever else makes the team.
This is a good example though that lots of good players will go for much less. Teams will tie their cap up quickly with the big names. Lots of good players for cheap on here.
Also I know Middleton will get the max but that is a bad contract. 4 years 190 million is way too much for a borderline all-star.
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I think replacing Fav with Mirotic AND Ed Davis would be a slight upgrade. I think 18 million is a major overpay for Mirotic though.
mongoose01
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The jazz could go over the cap to retain him though too. Right?
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Having three guys who can all create for themselves, knock down threes AND function well in the pick and roll would be a great outcome for the Jazz. If they can swing getting Tobias Harris, they should do Everything in their power to pull it off. Adjust the Memphis deal to create space, or work out a sign and trade with Philly.
Short of that, keep Favors and Exum until the deadline, then try to get in on a big deal for a disgruntled star looking to get out. Even if it’s just a rental. . . it would be a worthwhile risk.
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In order for the Conley trade to work as constituted, they would have to renounce all rights to Udoh. I also get the sense that he feels a little burned by how the last two years played out for him here. He was an incredible luxury to have as a 3rd string center.
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Adjusting the Memphis deal by sending out Exum and a fully gairanteed korver and signing Harris before the trade is the way to go!
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It would be awesome to sign Wes Mathews at the room exception but the list of players and expected salaries shows he is going for more than I thought he would. 8 mil for Wes sound right?
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I doubt Memphis would be too difficult to work with IF Harris has interest in the Jazz.
It’ll cost more, but would be worth the price if they can put together their (dare I say it?) Core 4 right now.
Conley, Mitchell, Jingles/O’Neale, Harris and Gobert would be and amazing start.
Find a way to get Dante’s salary in the deal and take Jae out. That saves $2.5M. Then DL needs to apologize to Jae for valuing his delusional hypotheticals over Jae’s realistic tangibles, and he needs to wipe his *** if Jae requests it.
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What very decision?
The decision (or question, rather) that a contingent of JFC has been discussing for over a year: whether it’s worth dropping a couple percentile points on your defense to jump 15 percentile points on your offense.
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I had a thought... it’s likely a terribly one sided trade but say Charlotte loses Kemba. Likely need a pg... likely won’t keep Lamb... what if we talked them into a sign and trade... we’ll send a young pg full of potential who is definitely not ded... AND UNC legend Tony Bradley (plus cash considerations... we know MJ loves cash considerations).
I mean there is no way in hell they should do that... but if we landed Lamb after using our space that’d be cool.
I mean there is no way in hell they should do that... but if we landed Lamb after using our space that’d be cool.
At a certain point in the analysis, offense and defense are interconnected and there arises a diminishing return to improving defense at the expense of offense. A team that has an efficient and productive offense, that makes the other team guard the entire floor, and that puts the ball in the bucket efficiently, also gains an advantage defensively because they make the other team inbound the ball after a made shot, they're better able to set up their defense, and they prevent that team from getting out and running an early offense.
A team that doesn't execute its offense well enough and lets the other team get out in transition will hurt their own defensive efficiency. This is why Ricky Rubio's bricks and live-ball turnovers hurt the Jazz's defensive rating, even though Rubio is a good defensive player in a vacuum.
What we're looking for is someone who is engaged in our offense more than Favors is, but who doesn't create a complete hole in our defense. It's about finding a player who is really good at one end of the court and at least passable at the other.
When Favors isn't involved in running screen-and-rolls, he's pretty much a non-offensive player.
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It’s a fairly elementary thing to understand, but emotion has really affected this analysis for a while, and I’m not just talking about personally with Favors. It’s even about the identity of the team, that we continue to look at diminishing returns because we feel it’s important to reinforce that identity, and we turn away any options that don’t strictly conform to our orthodox beliefs, failing to appreciate a level of nuance because our views of defense have evolved to become puritanical.
Well, what happened is that Gordon Hayward left the Jazz in free agency and prevented the Jazz from signing another offensively skilled player. So DL pivoted, decided that defense was our identity, and he brought in guys like Royce, Thabo, Udoh and Jerebko. Prior to that, the Jazz had offensive talent like Hayward, Hill, Joe Johnson and Rodney Hood. That first year after Hayward left, the Jazz's offense was like 22nd in the league, and we started relying almost entirely on Joe Ingles and Donovan Mitchell.
We've been recovering from that ever since.