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What is grunge?

Beer said:
Huh? Not really sure what you are saying or asking. But I don't like grunge as a music label because a lot if not most of the bands labeled grunge are not that similar musically imo. I don't think Pearl Jam and Nirvana are similar at all. Or Nirvana and Alice in Chains. Or Alice and Chains and Mudhoney. They did all wear oversized flannel and ripped jeans though.
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I'm just saying that cause grunge is a subjective music lable and.

And...

I'm hammered.
 


Just a few of my favourites... I'd actually consider RATM a grunge band too...
 
NAOS said:
Lol. Just wrong.

They’re very clearly in the tradition of Sonic Youth, an epic punk band.
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I was way into punk. Nirvana is way too slow to be any punk rock band I would ever listen to.
They are slow and depressing.

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fishonjazz said:
I was way into punk. Nirvana is way too slow to be any punk rock band I would ever listen to.
They are slow and depressing.

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There is no required speed or mood to punk music. Your reply leads me to think that you were probably into West Coast punk, the likes of which was based mainly in LA, Long Beach, etc.

That scene was a minor player in the overall punk movement, which had at least 3 other distinct and very influential scenes—two in New York, and one in DC.
 
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FWIW, I’ve always thought that if I had to use the grunge label to describe music (which is very clumsy and broad term that was created by a the music industry and music critics), then I would use it to describe early Soundgarden.

They clearly have roots in metal, but they’re mixing together a lot of stuff into a dirty, sweaty mess. It felt like something different enough to reach for a new term.
 
NAOS said:
There is no required speed or mood to punk music. Your reply leads me to think that you were probably into West Coast punk, the likes of which was based mainly in LA, Long Beach, etc.

That scene was a minor player in the overall punk movement, which had at least 3 other distinct and very influential scenes—two in New York, and one in DC. None of those sound hardly anything like West Coast Punk.
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Fair enough.
Some of my favorites: NOFX, pennywise, rancid, guttermouth, no fun at all, the vandals, offspring, the descendants.....
I had a good friend who had liberty spike mohawk who played bass in a band called endless stuggle. We would make fun of bands like nirvana.


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fishonjazz said:
Fair enough.
Some of my favorites: NOFX, pennywise, rancid, guttermouth, no fun at all, the vandals, offspring, the descendants.....
I had a good friend who had liberty spike mohawk who played bass in a band called endless stuggle. We would make fun of bands like nirvana.


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Yeah, that looks pretty west coasty.
 
Let’s all take a knee at the altar of Velvet Underground, who maybe should be considered the most influential band ever—when it comes to inspiring music, as opposed to fashion, iconography, or whatever else spins out from bands. Yes, even more than the Beatles in this sense.

 
Got the new bob dylan tune on now after reading nick cave's wonderful write up about it.
 
The band I’ve probably obsessed over more than any other. Their first 4 or 5 albums are absolutely insanely genius. Talking Heads, bros. I think they become the standard bearers for one fork of NY punk, and Sonic Youth become the standard bearers for another fork.

 
NAOS said:
Euphoria Morning was a big surprise for me at the time. really good album.
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Many years ago i had a car accident while listening to superunknown when i hit the wall the CD spat out and hit me in the head. I swear jim white is playing drums and warren ellis is on violin for murder most foul.
 
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