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Ineptimusprime said:
I think we have the smaller taxpayer MLE which is like half of the full MLE (because I think we are in the luxury tax even if Conley walks, right?). I think Lonzo will command more than that, and I think we only consider using the taxpayer MLE if Conley walks. Otherwise it just pushes us further into the tax for a player that probably won't move the needle much.

I think we also have some trade exceptions. I don't recall the Jazz ever actually using a trade exception though. The only way to get Lonzo here is probably some sort of sign and trade scenario.

I would be okay if the Jazz tried to make moves to get under the tax line or minimize the tax. I don't think we have a roster worth going deep into the tax for, but I guess that is Smith's choice. I'd prefer we make the conscious choice to re-tool around Donovan even if it means getting worse for a few seasons, but that isn't going to happen under current leadership. We are just going to continue whiffing in the draft and keeping the current core together.
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We are not in the luxury tax if Conley walks.
 
I don’t do jerseys, but if we got Lonzo I’d have a custom LaVar dark mode jersey made.
 
Okay, watching some highlights of Lonzo throwing lobs and I think this is our counter to teams trying to go small against Rudy.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
So could we offer Lonzo the full MLE and be into the tax just a lil bit? And this is without doing anything but letting Conley walk?
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Lonzo would have to come via sign and trade. They won't let him leave for nothing.

Bojan really fits well in NOLA. They need shooting to space for Zion and Ingram.

Bojan and #30 for Lonzo makes sense for me.

NOLA might want more. A lot depends on how much Lonzo expects in a contract.

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Ineptimusprime said:
So could we offer Lonzo the full MLE and be into the tax just a lil bit? And this is without doing anything but letting Conley walk?
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Lonzo is not going to sign for anywhere near the MLE.

It would have to be something like LoPo suggested.

We can let Conley walk or sign-and-trade him while getting less than 10.2M in return.

We can trade Bogey and 30 for Lonzo in a sign-and-trade. Lonzo is expected to get anywhere from 18M-20M a year which is right where Bogey’s salary is at.

Then we can use the tax payer MLE on a wing defender.
 
White Chocolate said:
Lonzo is not going to sign for anywhere near the MLE.

It would have to be something like LoPo suggested.

We let Conley walk or sign-and-trade him while getting less than 10.2M in return.

We then trade Bogey and 30 for Lonzo in a sign-and-trade. Lonzo is expected to get anywhere from 18M-20M a year which is right where Bogey’s salary is at.

Then we can use the tax payer MLE on a wing defender.
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We can't trade Conley in any scenario. It's sign him or let him walk.

As for a sign and trade, we could entice Lonzo by offering him more money than any other team wants to give. This kind of forces NOLAs hand if Lonzo doesn't want to be there and Utah is willing to give him more than they would want to match on.

4 years $80 million for Lonzo? Bojan and #30 go the other way?

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Use Clarkson or Bojan in a trade for Lonzo. Probably prefer to keep Bojan. Sign OPJ.

Donovan
Lonzo
Bojan
OPJ
Rudy
 
infection said:
Paging @Handlogten's Heros

So because we messed up cap math we have smaller MLE?
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We are in the tax regardless of the cap math this year... the eff up was for last year. Once you are a taxpayer you can only use mini MLE which is like 5.7M.

if they bring back Conley I doubt they use it though... the 20M or so Mike gets will end up being another 30M or so in tax and adding 5M is adding another like 15M in tax. So that player better be awesome.

If they’d just trust me to get them the bargain guy they need they can avoid paying through the nose for the established guy they think they need.
 
LoPo said:
We can't trade Conley in any scenario. It's sign him or let him walk.

As for a sign and trade, we could entice Lonzo by offering him more money than any other team wants to give. This kind of forces NOLAs hand if Lonzo doesn't want to be there and Utah is willing to give him more than they would want to match on.

4 years $80 million for Lonzo? Bojan and #30 go the other way?

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I may have been off... we may be able to sign and trade Mike but we have to take back a player already under contract. We can’t accept the sign and traded player. Does that make sense. I’m not 100% and haven’t done enough research to verify.
 
infection said:
Use Clarkson or Bojan in a trade for Lonzo. Probably prefer to keep Bojan. Sign OPJ.

Donovan
Lonzo
Bojan
OPJ
Rudy
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If we accept a player in sign and trade have to stay under the apron... we’d be hard capped there. It’s doable but not with our current front office and their broken spreadsheets.

I don’t believe in Lonzos jumper... I just don’t. I like a lot of his game... I think he presents the same challenges as Rubio.
 
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