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Jazz plan to sign Danuel House

Handlogten's Heros said:
He's playing Trent who refuses to shoot and when he does it is bad bad.... so who knows. Also JC is at 31% and Quin has told him to LFF (let the "bad word" fly).
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Agreed but DH wont be playing either of those roles. Your boy Shaq got no play because he couldn't stretch the floor.
 
He was decent years ago and is still young, why not? House has that profile of a player who can blend in and fit in here. I think if you played him instead of Forrest the team would perform better....but the same could be said about Oni. I'm an Oni guy, but there's really no point in keeping around a young player that a coach has lost faith in. If it were up to me I would have axed Dok first, but that was made more difficult because of our decision to pick up his option.

I expect we'll get to see him play because we'll have a bunch of covid absences. As I understand, the team didn't have to get tested unless they showed symptoms because they were all vaxxed. But now that Ingles popped they have to test everyday and there will be players that have covid and are aymptomatic. It'll be interested to see where he fits in the pecking order with Paschall and Hughes. If he gets the call ahead of them, I think that says a lot about where Quin sees those players.

There seems to be a sentiment that Quin is biased against young players and leans on "vets", but I don't really buy into t that. He's not different other coaches in that regard. Quin has empowered a lot of young players to come through the ranks, and I can't really think of too many times where a young player was being shafted because he was a young player.
 
It will be fun to see all the griping around here from those convinced that House should get a full-fledged tryout as THE MISSING PIECE for the Jazz while Quin treats him as a break-glass-only-in-case-of-emergency type of pickup.
 
idiot said:
It will be fun to see all the griping around here from those convinced that House should get a full-fledged tryout as THE MISSING PIECE for the Jazz while Quin treats him as a break-glass-only-in-case-of-emergency type of pickup.
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A modicum of poor perimeter defense awareness would be nice.
 
idiot said:
It will be fun to see all the griping around here from those convinced that House should get a full-fledged tryout as THE MISSING PIECE for the Jazz while Quin treats him as a break-glass-only-in-case-of-emergency type of pickup.
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I won't gripe... I don't see him as the missing piece. I see him as a guy we should take a look at and would support signing hm for the rest of the season as an insurance policy or as a way to rest other guys by having a reliable replacement to eat up the minutes. This is a much better use of a roster spot than keeping a guy that Quin will not use even in an emergency. If we are 100% healthy and don't use him then great.
 
Lance Stephenson just scored 20 pts in the first quarter... so who the effs knows... maybe some of these guys still have game and can be contributors. Maybe the apocalypse is happening?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I won't gripe... I don't see him as the missing piece. I see him as a guy we should take a look at and would support signing hm for the rest of the season as an insurance policy or as a way to rest other guys by having a reliable replacement to eat up the minutes. This is a much better use of a roster spot than keeping a guy that Quin will not use even in an emergency. If we are 100% healthy and don't use him then great.
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I remember when Corbin was coach, the Jazz signed Kyle Weaver out of the GLeague and in one game he was the second leading scorer to Hayward and filled up the stat sheet with a lot of positive statistics and the next day was gone. I can't remember if DL or KOC was the GM then.
 
Quin’s track record of bringing guys up through the ranks is very good. Sometimes I wonder if people take a second to think about a bunch of the guys on our team and how they got to where they are. Don’t understand why he’s getting a rep for burying guys on the bench. Oh wait….it’s because every fan ever has wanted to ply the young guys more.

I’m sure someone will turn this into “NBA teams are never wrong blah blah blah xD”.
 
I hear people saying stuff like same level as Oni and yet if this is the House I remember, he's got tons of experience and was known for hitting big shots and making big plays. This seems like a step in the right direction to me; now if he can manage to stick around and actually get some minutes in Snyder's system, that's a different story.
 
Why not sign Jimmer! Hahaha he shoots and plays zero defense. Perfect fit.

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KqWIN said:
Quin’s track record of bringing guys up through the ranks is very good. Sometimes I wonder if people take a second to think about a bunch of the guys on our team and how they got to where they are. Don’t understand why he’s getting a rep for burying guys on the bench. Oh wait….it’s because every fan ever has wanted to ply the young guys more.

I’m sure someone will turn this into “NBA teams are never wrong blah blah blah xD”.
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I am on the same page. Even teams that are very good at development have hits and misses - like Oni. And every team seems to have young talent who dont get minutes that the fans are sure deserve more time. Happens every year with the Jazz. What has happened with Butler was very predictable given our current roster and demands for winning now.
Joe, Royce, Trent, and even Rudy have been developed very well by Quin. The better team you are, the more difficult it is to develop young talent because the shift moves to winning games right now. I am curious what organizations people hold up as doing a better job than Quin and the Jazz? I am sure there are some but how long is the list?
 
gomretat said:
I am on the same page. Even teams that are very good at development have hits and misses - like Oni. And every team seems to have young talent who dont get minutes that the fans are sure deserve more time. Happens every year with the Jazz. What has happened with Butler was very predictable given our current roster and demands for winning now.
Joe, Royce, Trent, and even Rudy have been developed very well by Quin. The better team you are, the more difficult it is to develop young talent because the shift moves to winning games right now. I am curious what organizations people hold up as doing a better job than Quin and the Jazz? I am sure there are some but how long is the list?
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Miami.
 
gomretat said:
I am on the same page. Even teams that are very good at development have hits and misses - like Oni. And every team seems to have young talent who dont get minutes that the fans are sure deserve more time. Happens every year with the Jazz. What has happened with Butler was very predictable given our current roster and demands for winning now.
Joe, Royce, Trent, and even Rudy have been developed very well by Quin. The better team you are, the more difficult it is to develop young talent because the shift moves to winning games right now. I am curious what organizations people hold up as doing a better job than Quin and the Jazz? I am sure there are some but how long is the list?
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You could put Miami and Toronto up there...but at the end of the day those teams had their Oni's, NWG's, and Brantley's all the same. I can't even track who's in the league these days with the influx of 100+ new players, but there's probably some guy who isn't get much playing on those teams that fans are complaining about. Whining about the guy at the end of the bench who doesn't get to play is as old as time and fans are always so certain that if they were running the show their favorite bench warmer would be a star.

Quin's track record of elevating unknown/young players is great and not every team is built to be developing fringe players. One the main reason the Jazz aren't the best situation for a fringe player is because we're stacked and we're stacked in large part because of our work on the fringes and players who have developed under Quin.
 
gomretat said:
I am on the same page. Even teams that are very good at development have hits and misses - like Oni. And every team seems to have young talent who dont get minutes that the fans are sure deserve more time. Happens every year with the Jazz. What has happened with Butler was very predictable given our current roster and demands for winning now.
Joe, Royce, Trent, and even Rudy have been developed very well by Quin. The better team you are, the more difficult it is to develop young talent because the shift moves to winning games right now. I am curious what organizations people hold up as doing a better job than Quin and the Jazz? I am sure there are some but how long is the list?
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The situation is somewhat different from the Jazz in this regard, but Memphis sure seems to stand out as getting lots good (winning) efforts from young players. Their roster is so chock-full of young guys that seem to deserve time that I can't help wondering if the Grizzlies might be open to moving older players like Brooks and Anderson for the right price.
 
The Jazz USED to be good at developing players. Quin was brought on as a player development coach. He DID develop.

But what has he done lately? Name the last fringe player who has really improved under his watch? 3+ years back.
 
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