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This is a huge beef I have with Quin. He sees the direct consequence of specific things, but doesn't ever look at how dynamics change after that. He assumes that if you change one variable, then all other variables remain static and when we melt down in the playoffs, he's so baffled why all the other variables in the equation changed. It's like the idea having a center who shoots 32% from three. The initial thought is that this is not a great percentage. But it's not really about that percentage. It's about the changing dynamics of running that on the floor and how it changes the game when the defense has to make small adjustments depending on what's happening. Quin can't see all of the secondary and tertiary defensive issues that arise from teaching people to just do take fouls. Likewise, this is the big issue with "Rudy can't ____." Quin runs a system that makes funneling to Rudy be the main action. And the problem isn't just funneling to Rudy, it's that the entire defense doesn't work with rotations because everyone is taught that Rudy is the helper and you never help another guy. This is really where our defensive system comes crashing down. It's not because "Rudy can't be in multiple places at once" (well, it is, but that's not it). It's because nobody is accustomed to covering for another guy. When someone gets burned on the perimeter, how often are all the other guys just ball watching? The idea is to have Rudy do that because "he's the best at it, yada, yada," but it spreads Rudy too thin. We have an entire defensive system where nobody is mentally checked in on what they need to do and how the coverage changes over the course of a possession. We employ nobody helping because Quin sees the initial idea of "why don't we just have Rudy always be the helper because he's the best at it," and then we go creating issues because the offense knows they can exploit by only having to account for Rudy. I have loathed to talk about AK and have mentally excommunicated him from the franchise, but damn wouldn't having him on the floor for help coverage with Gobert be exactly the kind of crutch that could make Quin look competent. I absolutely hated his man-to-man defense, but him being the secondary guy that's supposed to cover from the weak side while Rudy is at the rim.
I share your sentiments about AK, but frankly having him as the PF on this team would be epic. Just like Hayward is exactly the kind of player we need, but I would rather have a colonoscopy from Orin Scrivello sans anesthesia than have him back again.
 
The only time anyone got bashed for anything Frank N related was when he was on the Knicks and people were saying to trade for him.

There's a Frank N thread from this off-season where pretty much everyone was in agreement, or neutral, about signing him this year for the minimum.
 
The only time anyone got bashed for anything Frank N related was when he was on the Knicks and people were saying to trade for him.

There's a Frank N thread from this off-season where pretty much everyone was in agreement, or neutral, about signing him this year for the minimum.
Or if people got wild and said... Frank could replace Conley's production... He was always a solid flier guy.
 
People bashed me for wanting him, but check out this stat on Frank Nkilitina:

Ntilikina isn’t the biggest name on this list but is coming off of a very successful series against the Suns where he held Devin Booker and Chris Paul to 3-of-40 shooting. He is entering the final year of a two-year $3.8 million contract, and with Tim Hardaway Jr. coming back next year, he might not find the playing time.

I was with ya on Frank brotha!!!


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You have some kind of persecution complex.
Does that double with a lack of self awareness?

I just set the record straight when I'm right after people call me stupid for making a suggestion.

I have been saying for 5 years that Nkilitina could be a defensive specialist star for us next to Don about 15-20 minutes a night.

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Does that double with a lack of self awareness?
Absolutely. Kinda two sides to the same coin.

I recall little-to-no pushback on the idea of picking up on a minimum deal.

In years previous, I’m sure whatever pushback that may have occurred came from the idea of trading real assets for him or placing him in a role of prominence. In which case, those are reasonable concerns.

But this notion that there was a widespread wholesale antagonism to Frank is just not true.
 
Frank N is cool. But he is the ultimate offense killer. He can't be a consistent role player. Hes simply a specialist you put in if you absolutely have to.
 
Nobody bashed getting Ntilikina lmao everyone thought he’d be a great pickup on a minimum deal. Secondly, I just looked up a thread where LoPo said we should sign him and the reasoning was he’s "Donovan’s best friend" lmao I wish I kidding.
 
Nobody bashed getting Ntilikina lmao everyone thought he’d be a great pickup on a minimum deal. Secondly, I just looked up a thread where LoPo said we should sign him and the reasoning was he’s "Donovan’s best friend" lmao I wish I kidding.
I had completely forgotten about the Donovan angle there.

Considering their supposed friendship and assuming some kind of friendship between Frank and Rudy (from playing on the French NT), maybe going after Frank should be prioritized if they try to run back Don and Rudy together.
 
I had completely forgotten about the Donovan angle there.

Considering their supposed friendship and assuming some kind of friendship between Frank and Rudy (from playing on the French NT), maybe going after Frank should be prioritized if they try to run back Don and Rudy together.
That's another aspect of my desire to add Frank. He makes the lives of Don AND Rudy easier because he's an elite perimeter defender. His personal relationships with both should help too.
 


Thank you Mr Kerr for really using your platform! That kind of sterling authenticity while blasting the politicians that are ‘holding us hostage” over background checks for personal power was incredibly compelling. We need more people with your conviction and courage.

The kid passed the background check.
 
The kid passed the background check.

To me, purchasing hundreds of rounds of ammo and two long rifles within three days seems a bit of a flag.

If we require people getting Global Entry and TSA Precheck interviews - and you still have to go through security screening, seems we could lean in a bit more with purchasing firearms (especially if you are a creepy kid who looks like a Slytherin reject).
 
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