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2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

Here are the contract numbers for some of the guys being discussed - This Year, Future Years
Cam Johnson - 23.6, 21.6, 23.6
DFS - 14.9, PO 15.4
Shroder - 13, UFA
Lavine - 43, 46, PO 49
Patrick Williams - 18, 18, 18, PO 18
Vucevic - 20, 21
Collins - 26.6, PO 26.6
Sexton - 18.4, 19.2
Clarkson - 14, 14.3
 
Ingram's market could be so low right now. Shamit Dua on his pod was saying the Jazz were talking an offer of Sexton or Collins and Kessler. Part of the issue was BI wanted the BAG if he came to Utah and it sounds like things broke down from there.

If the Lakers don't come calling I am not seeing the obvious suitor. Detroit? maybe. Maybe they hope Brooklyn makes an offer in FA?

I'm glad he paused cuz BI on a max or near max is a disaster imo.
 
One super tiny thing I thought. NOP might not be willing to help Lakers because they own their pick BUT they sent that pick to Atlanta in the Murray trade... so small little benefit of sending Ingram to LA is it may make that pick worse and the GM might avoid looking foolish if Lakers slow down and end up missing the playoffs. Super small and not the reason to do a deal at all... but these dudes have egos and don't want to look like they got smashed in a trade.

My guess is Ingram ends up getting moved to the Lakers when he agrees to a lower than max extension with them. The acquisition price will be low but they may want a third team to help to provide different contracts and smooth out the salary mechanics (Lakers can't take more salary and NO wants to duck the tax). Some version of Ingram to LA, Collins to NOP, Russell/Rui with some draft stuff to Utah is possible.
 
KqWIN said:
I hate to be the one to break it to ya, but outside of the Utah Jazz fan bubble people just don't believe Sexton is very good or that he's a winning player. I would love to be wrong and actually get something good for him, definitely not counting on it though.
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ANd people thought that of Rozier?

If a teams need a scoring guard off the bench, Sexton will have a market.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yeah I don't want that either. I'd rather have Huerter than Anthony. Especially if we haven't sent out Clarkson or Sexton somewhere already.

If we clear out Collins then we can maybe play in the FA market if we want or we can work the sign and trade route using Sexton JC.

I can see a three team deal with Collins going to NOP and Ingram going to the Lakers with DLo and stuff coming this way (Rui?) but Lakers need to provide the draft capital there. Maybe they would want Collins instead but Ingram is the bigger name obvi.
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The Huerter->Anthony idea is that we get a better pick. I don't actually want Anthony. Taking on his contract provides more value to ORL and hence they would be willing to give more compensation. I'm willing to take on the extra salary here for more draft compensation, that would likely be the goal anyways if we were to clear out space.

ORL is in a salary crunch for next year, so I could also see someone like DLO being rerouted to them. His expiring would be valuable to them and he is an upgrade. I had mocked that kind of trade earlier with Sexton->LAL, DLO->ORL, and Anthony+picks->UTA.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
ANd people thought that of Rozier?

If a teams need a scoring guard off the bench, Sexton will have a market.
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I think that teams will look at other players first if the price is right. Schroeder and Cam Thomas are likely in the bargain bin right now begging to be taken home. I just think it might be a role teams try to get away with finding a cheap option rather than one that costs a first that is the premium version of that player type.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
ANd people thought that of Rozier?

If a teams need a scoring guard off the bench, Sexton will have a market.
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Rozier was balling out before he got traded and at the time MIA wasn't trading for him to be their backup like teams would with Sexton at the moment. I'm pretty sure everyone hated that trade for MIA anyways. I don't think Rozier is a terrible reference point, but I don't thinks a situation where history will repeat itself and I also think Rozier's reputation still exceeded Sexton.

If Sexton was producing at the level he was last year once he became the starter, I could see that...but right now I can't see a team who would pencil him in as a starter playing big minutes.
 
KqWIN said:
The Huerter->Anthony idea is that we get a better pick. I don't actually want Anthony. Taking on his contract provides more value to ORL and hence they would be willing to give more compensation. I'm willing to take on the extra salary here for more draft compensation, that would likely be the goal anyways if we were to clear out space.

ORL is in a salary crunch for next year, so I could also see someone like DLO being rerouted to them. His expiring would be valuable to them and he is an upgrade. I had mocked that kind of trade earlier with Sexton->LAL, DLO->ORL, and Anthony+picks->UTA.
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I can see that. We would kinda need a couple deals. I think just too much has to line up so will keep my personal expectations super low.
 
KqWIN said:
Rozier was balling out before he got traded and at the time MIA wasn't trading for him to be their backup like teams would with Sexton at the moment. I'm pretty sure everyone hated that trade for MIA anyways. I don't think Rozier is a terrible reference point, but I don't thinks a situation where history will repeat itself and I also think Rozier's reputation still exceeded Sexton.

If Sexton was producing at the level he was last year once he became the starter, I could see that...but right now I can't see a team who would pencil him in as a starter playing big minutes.
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Pat Riley must be down so bad right now. Getting swindled by the Horncats.... rough. Was a bad deal at the time... made worse by Rozier never being healthy. I worry Ainge does the same impatient thing and ends up buying something stupid. I will take holding and doing nothing and finishing bottom 4 this year as a win.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Pat Riley must be down so bad right now. Getting swindled by the Horncats.... rough. Was a bad deal at the time... made worse by Rozier never being healthy. I worry Ainge does the same impatient thing and ends up buying something stupid. I will take holding and doing nothing and finishing bottom 4 this year as a win.
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They kinda blew up their "superstar trade package" as well. Just a really head scratching move. Before CHO was decimated, I had kind of wondered if we could give them Sexton for that exact pick which was traded for Rozier. Needed better play from both CHO and Sexton if that were to happen though.

I do have some similar concerns about DA being impatient. How much truth was there to his "almost" trades and quick rebuilding plans? Who knows, but I think if we were ever going to do a quicker rebuild our younger guys would have needed to pop. Like if Keyonte was actually Lisan Al Ghaib I could see us being good pretty quickly, but I don't think that's in the cards.

It's totally fine to just keep tanking, but the likelihood of actually executing a good, quick rebuild gets lower by the day and I don't want DA to try to force it.
 
KqWIN said:
They kinda blew up their "superstar trade package" as well. Just a really head scratching move. Before CHO was decimated, I had kind of wondered if we could give them Sexton for that exact pick which was traded for Rozier. Needed better play from both CHO and Sexton if that were to happen though.

I do have some similar concerns about DA being impatient. How much truth was there to his "almost" trades and quick rebuilding plans? Who knows, but I think if we were ever going to do a quicker rebuild our younger guys would have needed to pop. Like if Keyonte was actually Lisan Al Ghaib I could see us being good pretty quickly, but I don't think that's in the cards.

It's totally fine to just keep tanking, but the likelihood of actually executing a good, quick rebuild gets lower by the day and I don't want DA to try to force it.
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There is going to be a pivot point this summer where I could see a win now type of move or a trade Lauri and elongate the tank. I could also see us trying one more tank with Lauri year. I know a bunch of the base thinks this is a two year process but I am convinced Ainge doesn't map things out that rigidly and I think there will be some things "on sale" that may be tough to pass up.

If they land a top 4 pick and feel good about the rookie I can see them slamming on the gas OR doing a unite the timeline thing where they move Lauri.
 
KqWIN said:
Rozier was balling out before he got traded and at the time MIA wasn't trading for him to be their backup like teams would with Sexton at the moment. I'm pretty sure everyone hated that trade for MIA anyways. I don't think Rozier is a terrible reference point, but I don't thinks a situation where history will repeat itself and I also think Rozier's reputation still exceeded Sexton.

If Sexton was producing at the level he was last year once he became the starter, I could see that...but right now I can't see a team who would pencil him in as a starter playing big minutes.
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Sexton is shooting 42% from 3....
 
The thing Sexton has going for him currently is he's one of the best mid-volume 3pt shooters and he's under contract for another season at a good price. You also know he can do what he does without needing as many shots as Cam.

Cam Thomas is going to be a RFA at the end of teh year. I doubt he gets paid all that much, so maybe someone will view that as a positive, but it will still be a bit of a headache in terms of contract negotiations in 2025.
 
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