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#1 Pick to Utah?

Jazz would take crap salaries back in order to free more cap space for Cleveland to run at LeBron. That probably means Jarret Jack, but could also mean Bennett, Thompson or Zeller.



Or did Cleveland create the situation with the big foot injury reveal so that they were justified in trading the pick? There is no spoon.

I am fine taking back salary. I like Varajeo even though he gets hurt he is a rebounding machine. I love Jarret Jack too.
 
I am fine taking back salary. I like Varajeo even though he gets hurt he is a rebounding machine. I love Jarret Jack too.

Exactly, we have a ton of cap space to use and who do we really want to throw big bucks at for long term deals this Summer? We'll obviously do what we can for Hayward, but after that we're not getting any of the big names so I'd rather take on some of Cleveland's eh contracts for a while instead of throwing money at a terrible FA pool (that we could obtain of course)
 
Don't really want to give up Favors to get Parker, would probably do it for Wiggins though. I'd give up Favors for Parker and Sanders though. We got to have a rim protector, and unless Gobert is ready to play bigger minutes, then we need Favors (or Sanders).

Reports are that Tomic is much better defensively than he was, and that his team was ranked #1 defensively, and he was integral to that.

If Gobert and Tomic aren't enough to anchor the frontcourt, Asik could be available to us.

If no e of those options work, and we end up worse than we were last year, next year's draft is all about bigs.
 
Exactly, we have a ton of cap space to use and who do we really want to throw big bucks at for long term deals this Summer? We'll obviously do what we can for Hayward, but after that we're not getting any of the big names so I'd rather take on some of Cleveland's eh contracts for a while instead of throwing money at a terrible FA pool (that we could obtain of course)

But Favors was the third pick in the draft once by the Nets.
 
I am fine taking back salary. I like Varajeo even though he gets hurt he is a rebounding machine. I love Jarret Jack too.

One or the other:
They get Favors AND cap relief or they get Favors AND the #5. Can't have both. The cap relief would have to come after the draft, though.

At the draft: Favors and the #5 for the #1.
On July 1 (finalized July 10th): Since the league or the devil seem intent on giving Cleveland a top-3 pick every year, I'd only let them have one year of top-3 protection. Varejao and their top-3 restricted 2016 pick (unrestricted in 2017), for the GS or Denver 2nd rounder.
 
If we trade up to #1 it's obvious that we're taking Jabari. If that happens, I guarantee Philly finds a way to trade or the 2nd pick from the bucks.

This might be the first draft in which the top 2 picks go to teams with strong coaches who aren't focused on Isoball (both are from the San Antonio coaching tree and both have experience In the euro game)

All the Jazz have to do is draft Wiggins and then call Philly and say if you want your guy give us #3 and #10. They only move to #2 if they are afraid the Bucks want Parker. Everyone knows Philly wants Wiggins. They've played their hand so if the Jazz don't care if they get Parker or Wiggins then draft Wiggins and force their hand. Philly might freak and think they aren't going to get either and then fold and give us #10.

Jazz draft Wiggins and trade him for Parker and #10.
 
All the Jazz have to do is draft Wiggins and then call Philly and say if you want your guy give us #3 and #10. They only move to #2 if they are afraid the Bucks want Parker. Everyone knows Philly wants Wiggins. They've played their hand so if the Jazz don't care if they get Parker or Wiggins then draft Wiggins and force their hand. Philly might freak and think they aren't going to get either and then fold and give us #10.

Jazz draft Wiggins and trade him for Parker and #10.
Have they played their hand or is it a smokescreen? They're reportedly shopping Thadeus Young. That could be in preparation to draft Jabari.
 
One or the other:
They get Favors AND cap relief or they get Favors AND the #5. Can't have both. The cap relief would have to come after the draft, though.

At the draft: Favors and the #5 for the #1.
On July 1 (finalized July 10th): Since the league or the devil seem intent on giving Cleveland a top-3 pick every year, I'd only let them have one year of top-3 protection. Varejao and their top-3 restricted 2016 pick (unrestricted in 2017), for the GS or Denver 2nd rounder.

Why do they have to wait until the end of the draft both Favors and Varejao are under contract.
 
Have they played their hand or is it a smokescreen? They're reportedly shopping Thadeus Young. That could be in preparation to draft Jabari.

True, everything is a smokescreen. I am just basing my theory/hope on that Philly has a Willy for Wiggins. The only reason why I would trade Wiggins is if Gordon is still available. So if Gordon is off the board which is probable I most likely would just keep Wiggins.

I view Wiggins > Parker, however Parker + Gordon >>> Wiggins.
 
All the Jazz have to do is draft Wiggins and then call Philly and say if you want your guy give us #3 and #10. They only move to #2 if they are afraid the Bucks want Parker. Everyone knows Philly wants Wiggins. They've played their hand so if the Jazz don't care if they get Parker or Wiggins then draft Wiggins and force their hand. Philly might freak and think they aren't going to get either and then fold and give us #10.

Jazz draft Wiggins and trade him for Parker and #10.

Would this not be just ****ing awesome
 
We finally get Wiggins and you want to trade him out? Whaaaaa? The 3 pick keeps us from getting Parker or Wiggins and puts us in Exumville. No Thanks. I guess I'll live with Exum if he falls to us at 5, but I'm not blowing past Wiggins to get there. Chances are the guy you get at 10 is a good bench player. Exum and a good bench player aren't worth Wiggins. If you want another lottery pick, deal with Sacramento and give them salary relief. If we are losing Favors, we have money to burn! If we get Wiggins, even Hayward is expendable. The 8 pick will at least give you one of Vonleh, Smart, Gordon, Randall, or even Embiid. The 10 pick gets you McBuckets, maybe.
 
We finally get Wiggins and you want to trade him out? Whaaaaa? The 3 pick keeps us from getting Parker or Wiggins and puts us in Exumville. No Thanks. I guess I'll live with Exum if he falls to us at 5, but I'm not blowing past Wiggins to get there. Chances are the guy you get at 10 is a good bench player. Exum and a good bench player aren't worth Wiggins. If you want another lottery pick, deal with Sacramento and give them salary relief. If we are losing Favors, we have money to burn! If we get Wiggins, even Hayward is expendable. The 8 pick will at least give you one of Vonleh, Smart, Gordon, Randall, or even Embiid. The 10 pick gets you McBuckets, maybe.

the premise was to trade to 1, take wiggins, if parker makes it to 3, then trade 1 to philly (who badly wants wiggins) for 3 (parker) and 10 (whoever).


it equates to ( if parker is there at 3 still)

5 and Favors, for Parker and 10 (and salary filler)

OR

if parker isnt there at 3,

we still get to keep wiggins
 
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