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14th Tank Platoon

fishonjazz said:
They could have made some moves to get worse and play the youth more minutes. (Trade marv and jeffy for nothing)

Also could have held players out with bogus injuries more often.

But they did nothing at all.
Didnt change any strategies.

but hey, it still worked out pretty damn good. Even if they got rid of a few guys for garbage and held guys out with fake injuries we couldnt have lost much more than we have recently
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You don't think they tried to trade RJ and Marvin? $8M and $11M are not tradeable contracts, especially for their production. How many teams that are trying to make the playoffs had cap space to take on those two? Now had they been making close to the vet minimum, there would have been a market for them.
 
Stoked said:
It's starting to get down to the wire here folks. Some big, Big games tonight.

WAS @ ORL
CHA @ BOS
PHI @ MEM
PHX @ SAS
POR @ UTA
GS @ LAL

This could be a great or horrible night for the Jazz's two picks thi syear.

If ORL & BOS win and UTA loses than it is a 3 way tie for 3rd. Need LA to beat GS and that would place them 2 games behind UTA if the Jazz lose tonight.

If Memphis and Phoenix win and GS loses than that will tie PHX and GS for the 6th seed and make Dallas a 1/2 game behind and Memphis 1 game behind in 9th.
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I'm trying not to get too excited. Even IF Orlando or Boston win, Utah has at least another win in them. So the tie might be temporary. It would be nice to see LAL win over the GS Cheaters.
 
Core4 said:
You don't think they tried to trade RJ and Marvin? $8M and $11M are not tradeable contracts, especially for their production. How many teams that are trying to make the playoffs had cap space to take on those two? Now had they been making close to the vet minimum, there would have been a market for them.
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We do not know if they did or not. Expiring contracts are attractive to teams going into this free agency class. But who knows...
 
Core4 said:
I'm trying not to get too excited. Even IF Orlando or Boston win, Utah has at least another win in them. So the tie might be temporary. It would be nice to see LAL win over the GS Cheaters.
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blazers, nuggets, lakers, t-wolves

You might be right but I see no reason why we can't lose all of those games.
 
Stoked said:
We do not know if they did or not. Expiring contracts are attractive to teams going into this free agency class. But who knows...
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Examine the trades that were made. Only a couple of teams made significant deals. Cleveland tried to get better by trading for Hawes. Indiana got Turner. The rest were swaps for SG's or bit players. There weren't really any deals for purely expiring contracts, unless you count the Turner for Granger deal. But Turner is a FA, IIRC, so even that wasn't a true "we'll give you assets for an expiring contract" deal.

Expiring contracts have minimal value under the new CBA. Contracts are shorter and most teams have already made their cuts. I believe only 4 teams were in the luxury tax for 2013/14 (Brooklyn, NY, Miami and Lakers) and they had already committed to those salaries and were not trying to make cuts to get under. Of the teams positioning themselves for FA, some, like the Lakers, have already set themselves up. Then there's the question of who has a bloated contract that a team doesn't want? In the trade thread, we exhausted the list of possibilities that may have made any kind of sense for Utah and the other team. I think there were only a couple and they were long shots at best.
 
cowhide said:
I see your point however none of those scenarios helps GS miss the playoffs.
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Golden State (48-30) - @LA Lakers - @ Portland - Minnesota - @Denver

Dallas (48-32) - Phoenix - Memphis
Memphis (46-32) - Philadelphia - @LA Lakers - @ Phoenix - Dallas
Phoenix (47-31) - @San Antonio - @ Dallas - Memphis - @ Sacramento

Here's the only hope as I can see it that won't involve any tiebreakers. . . Golden State needs to slump and lose all 4 of their remaining games. Don't see that happening, so this is probably a totally moot point. Dallas needs to beat Phoenix, but then lose to Memphis. Memphis needs to beat Philadelphia, the Lakers and the last game against Dallas. Phoenix needs to win at least two. I don't think they beat San Antonio, and we need Dallas to win at least one more game, so I have them beating Memphis and Sacramento. That scenario would leave Golden State with 48 wins and the other three with 49. These numbers shift if Phoenix can win against San Antonio or if any of the three teams have a tie-breaker over the GSW if they end up tied.

Unfortunately, it doesn't look too good at all. The Jazz probably could have had more of an influence in causing the Tankers to end up in the Lottery if they'd been more ruthless in the offseason. Looks like they're being nice and professional might have cost the Jazz about 10 spots in this draft.
 
Ellis269 said:
Unfortunately, it doesn't look too good at all. The Jazz probably could have had more of an influence in causing the Tankers to end up in the Lottery if they'd been more ruthless in the offseason. Looks like they're being nice and professional might have cost the Jazz about 10 spots in this draft.
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Hinkie has been planning the sixers tank since last years draft I'm sure he did his damndest to acquire beans. They would have unloaded him and Rj with or without our help. We got 4 draft picks. This was a good move for us.
 
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