2 Solutions We Have On Our Roster Right Now
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Jazzmix
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The fact that he rebounds his own misses means that he actually gets his shot off, Davis is usually not even able to catch the ball. I know it's a small sample but Bradley actually hasn't been only rebounding his own misses this season, his finish around the rim really improved.
homeytennis
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Let's have some fun Tuesday and let our bench be Bradley, Morgan, DedEx, NWG and JWF and see how it does. Do it Quin and DL. Make it happen.
NAOS
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Niang hasn’t been nearly as bad as many of you claim. It seems like at least twice a game our defensive breakdowns leave him in an impossible situation as the last rotator. For ball-watchers, this means he sucks. But he doesn’t.
Ed Davis has definitely been a big problem, though. I’d love it if all his minutes went to Bobby Portis. (Or, alternatively, if Davis could figure out wtf is wrong with his hands).
Ed Davis has definitely been a big problem, though. I’d love it if all his minutes went to Bobby Portis. (Or, alternatively, if Davis could figure out wtf is wrong with his hands).
homeytennis
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His hands are Ded.
jom2003
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All of them would have started over Royce, Jeff and Niang. Com'on now. How hard is this for you man?
Handlogten's Heros
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You been watching practices or something... how can you declare the guy a bad roll man (or the same as Davis) when the only sample size he’s given us has been solid? It’s fine to say it’s inconclusive... tough to say he’s bad.
I feel like when Ed and Ingles run a pick and roll it results in a turnover like every time... he’s not a threat to do anything... how bad does he have to play before they go to Bradley... why keep Bradley around if you don’t think he can play better than the level Ed’s giving us?
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Well, for one, Tony can actually catch the ball, and two, he has decent post moves -- neither of which Ed has. Davis is a better rebounder, however, but neither a rim protectors.
The main reason we held AD down was Favors who pretty much played AD even in their matchup. In any case, everyone knows we need a PF and that's where DL screwed up ... But it appears he screwed up quite a bit the last couple of years.
The main reason we held AD down was Favors who pretty much played AD even in their matchup. In any case, everyone knows we need a PF and that's where DL screwed up ... But it appears he screwed up quite a bit the last couple of years.
Well I probably watched more G-League games of him than most...
1. He is not good a pick n roll player other than the fact that he does set good screens
2. He has no mid-roll game
3. He cant finish above the rim
4. He isnt aggressive enough to draw contact like a Kanter
He isnt a good roll man.
And you keep Bradley because you think he's good enough to be a emergency backup. Not all 15 guys on your roster have to that level of upside to be worth rostering, though I would agree it's probably less than ideal to continue to try and develop him because it's as square peg/round hole thing with how the team plays under Quin, but at the same time who knows. Maybe he learns to shoot one day and he suddenly becomes useful on offense outside of rebounding.
I don't think Powell, Harkless, or Saric would, but sure to the otherrs.
But who cares? You don't have to have the best PF to beat any of these teams. It's as close to a non-issue as it gets on this team.
Dali
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Whats interesting is that Cy made a thread about playing Bradley over Ed very recently. And when he did, Bradley actually started games, and played well, much much better than Ed.
Then the Jazz just handed the job back to Ed, and then Cy has now done a total 180, to make sure that his thoughts mirror the Jazz's thoughts, so as to give the impression of, I know what I'm talking about because my thought process alignes with the Jazz.
Why are we treating Ed like he's Donovan or Rudy or Bojan? If any of our stars had a horrible run of play like Ed has, you still stick with them because they're our stars. Almost all of our bench rotations should be up for grabs. Below are some cold hard facts.
Tony Bradley stats:
Offensive rating: 125
Defensive rating: 103
Effective FG%: 61.1
FT %: 68.8
PER: 20.7
Rebs: 3.5
Win shares:0.7
Ed Davis stats:
Offensive rating: 94
Defensive rating: 100
Effective FG%: 47.6
FT %: 42.9
PER: 7.6
Rebs: 4.5
Win shares: 0.3
The amount of daylight there is between the majority of the stats between the two is so vast, you could drive a Boeing 747 through them. Ed is grabbing one extra rebound per game, but keep in mind that on average, Ed has also played 3 minutes extra per game.
Then the Jazz just handed the job back to Ed, and then Cy has now done a total 180, to make sure that his thoughts mirror the Jazz's thoughts, so as to give the impression of, I know what I'm talking about because my thought process alignes with the Jazz.
Why are we treating Ed like he's Donovan or Rudy or Bojan? If any of our stars had a horrible run of play like Ed has, you still stick with them because they're our stars. Almost all of our bench rotations should be up for grabs. Below are some cold hard facts.
Tony Bradley stats:
Offensive rating: 125
Defensive rating: 103
Effective FG%: 61.1
FT %: 68.8
PER: 20.7
Rebs: 3.5
Win shares:0.7
Ed Davis stats:
Offensive rating: 94
Defensive rating: 100
Effective FG%: 47.6
FT %: 42.9
PER: 7.6
Rebs: 4.5
Win shares: 0.3
The amount of daylight there is between the majority of the stats between the two is so vast, you could drive a Boeing 747 through them. Ed is grabbing one extra rebound per game, but keep in mind that on average, Ed has also played 3 minutes extra per game.
Yeah because watching Ed Davis has really sucked and I wasnt a fan of the signing in the 1st place, but when you sit down and really think about it, taking the stance that Bradley should play over Ed is crazy.
And my Pro-Bradley stances have always been based on the undeserved hate he got and that he was in fact worthy of being a NBA player. Prior to this year it was also based on my expectations that he would ever learn to shoot, which he hasnt in the slightest. So overall my optimism for Bradley dropped as a result of the minutes he has gotten this year, but I'm glad he showed he can go out there and hold his own against other bench guys and not be completely embarrassed (though sometimes he did get completely embarrassed).
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