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Sooooo..explain to me how you have obatined the secrets to being all knowing? What have you seen besides some youtube video and a few box scores? Maybe this is hard for your superiority complexed *** to comprehend, intnl player grown or not do not always equal superior players even on an ncaa scale. Ya dig? Or have you just not watched one ncaa game out of the ncaa tourney this year to not be able to make a qualified statement on anyone so you just spout out all this **** about how great biyambo is? Funny how similar both sene and biyambo were so highly spoken of by writters. At the end of tis ypu and i will not see eye to eye on talent because you are extremely narow minded hype muncher. Eat it up bitch.

Actually I watched most of the NCAA tourney. Would you possibly like to direct me towards where I ever said that international players are superior to players on an NCAA scale?

I was just explaining how the difference between Sene and Biyambo are the fact that Sene couldn't even get playing time for a lower-level European team and Biyombo does get playing time in the top division in Europe. And he produces with his playing time. That's the difference between Sene and Biyambo. And I never said I was all-knowing, I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong, which I have done in this thread. Like earlier when I said that Nolan Smith was better than Brandon Knight. I took that back because clearly Knight is the better player with quite a bit more potential. I'm not looking to get mad at you or disrespect you, I'm just offering a differing opinion. That happens quite a bit in life, not everybody is going to agree with you.
 
But , come one who really cares if he watched malone? There are big time talents that have proven themselves against the best in the ncaa. We also do not need to stunt favors by drafting another pf! I want knight or we should package 6, 12 and anyone otjer than favors or hayward for the chance to draft irving.

Uh the Malone comment was tongue in cheek. It doesn't matter. I will admit that sene and biyombo are very similar. People said the same things about ibaka and look how he turned out. I think biyombo is much more similar to ibaka. It all comes down to work ethic. If a player, ala millsap, comes in and works hard they can be good. If the come in and work hard and have talent they are very good. Sene didn't work hard and he was always skinny. Biyombo from what I have read has a good work ethic and he is a leader. (also the reason I want fredette)

Now I have said this before I am worried how he fits with favors. This draft is so week I am looking for a player that has the highest ceiling and I think that is biyombo.
 
Barnes staying has turned this draft from potentially okay to officially garbage. If the Jazz want a top-shelf wing, they're going to have to be even worse in the coming year (if there is one).
 
I say we draft Sullinger, and if he's not available we should take Barnes... if he's gone how about we take that Jones kid.
If none of those are available we should take either Zeller or Henson from NC, they are both decent big men.
This is a really deep draft, so someone should be available that will make a difference.
I love it when plans work out perfectly.
 
Barnes staying has turned this draft from potentially okay to officially garbage. If the Jazz want a top-shelf wing, they're going to have to be even worse in the coming year (if there is one).

I tend to like your POV on the draft as a whole. If we hypothetically didn't get a top pick and the chance to take Irving or Williams, who is 3-8 on your board?
 
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