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NUMBERICA said:
Horrid defender. Versatile, smart player, but isn't exactly a go-to scorer either. I get the feeling his team's rebounding percentages don't quite follow his individual prowess either, but I'm purely speculating.
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Again, how is he overrated? We all know Kevin Love isn't a top ten like player, but he's a great and solid player. Does he have holes in his game? Yes. Is he hyped like some clowns that are overrated? IMO, no. Dude was USA's secret weapon in the Olympics and still barely got to play.

If anything, the guy is underrated imo.
 
margodydek said:
NUMBERICA already helped me out a little with this one, but I think Love's numbers were grossly inflated by playing on a GD awful team. I still think he's really good, but how he made the All-Star team over Aldridge I'll never know.
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So one of your points of him being overrated is because he was voted by the coaches to make the all star team?

I think his numbers were inflated, but come on, his double-double streak and NBA record of 51 games is impressive. I don't care what team you play for. That's not overrated.
 
Overrated Kevin Love.

Ranks #16 in the NBA in Points Per Game (20.2)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (15.2)
Ranks #25 in the NBA in Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage (0.417)
Ranks #17 in the NBA in Free-Throw Percentage (0.850)
Ranks #31 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game (35.8)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Minutes Played (2611)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goals Made (482)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goal Attempts (1026)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throws (424)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts (499)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (330)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (4.5)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (782)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (10.7)

Ranks #1 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (1112)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points (1476)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Double-doubles (64)
Ranks #11 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (7.8)
Ranks #14 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes (9.17)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (6.1)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (14.4)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (20.4)
Ranks #14 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (27.1)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (2071)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (28.37)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (38.08)
Ranks #27 in the NBA in Turnovers Per Game (2.12)
 
He isnt even a top 25 player. If you are a top 25 player you should at least be able to lead your team away from the worst record in the NBA.
 
Archie Moses said:
So one of your points of him being overrated is because he was voted by the coaches to make the all star team?

I think his numbers were inflated, but come on, his double-double streak and NBA record of 51 games is impressive. I don't care what team you play for. That's not overrated.
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Coaches didn't put him in. Stern did. Stern picked him to replace a giant chinese dude. Majority of coaches/players that spoke about this thought it was a travesty that Aldridge didn't get in. Never said Love's not good, just that he's overrated and to be honest I think most people around the league know what he is, it's the average fan that saw two of his games and saw the huge numbers he put up on an awful team and that he made the all-star game and they automatically think he's a 1st team all NBAer. Guy played for numbers which is exactly what 99.99% of players in his same position (stuck in Minnesota with a bunch of eskimoes) would have done, so I don't blame him, but I wouldn't build my team around Kevin Love.
 
Archie Moses said:
Overrated Kevin Love.

Ranks #16 in the NBA in Points Per Game (20.2)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (15.2)
Ranks #25 in the NBA in Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage (0.417)
Ranks #17 in the NBA in Free-Throw Percentage (0.850)
Ranks #31 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game (35.8)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Minutes Played (2611)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goals Made (482)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goal Attempts (1026)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throws (424)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts (499)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (330)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (4.5)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (782)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (10.7)

Ranks #1 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (1112)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points (1476)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Double-doubles (64)
Ranks #11 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (7.8)
Ranks #14 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes (9.17)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (6.1)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (14.4)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (20.4)
Ranks #14 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (27.1)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (2071)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (28.37)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (38.08)
Ranks #27 in the NBA in Turnovers Per Game (2.12)
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Again, I'm not saying he's a top "what ever number you want to insert here" player in the league, he's just not overrated. I don't care who you are, you don't break NBA records for the sole purpose of being on a crappy team, with a crappy coach, with a crappy gm, and no direction. I wouldn't build around him either, but I'm not going to say he's "overrated" and Aldridge got robbed. No way. I just don't know what you mean by "overrated". I don't think anyone in the world pimps Love like he's the best basketball player and I guarantee you 99.9% of coaches and players in the NBA respect him and his game.
 
Archie Moses said:
Overrated Kevin Love.

Ranks #16 in the NBA in Points Per Game (20.2)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game (15.2)
Ranks #25 in the NBA in Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage (0.417)
Ranks #17 in the NBA in Free-Throw Percentage (0.850)
Ranks #31 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game (35.8)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Minutes Played (2611)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goals Made (482)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goal Attempts (1026)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throws (424)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts (499)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds (330)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game (4.5)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (782)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (10.7)

Ranks #1 in the NBA in Total Rebounds (1112)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points (1476)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Double-doubles (64)
Ranks #11 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (7.8)
Ranks #14 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes (9.17)
Ranks #6 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (6.1)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (14.4)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (20.4)
Ranks #14 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (27.1)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (2071)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (28.37)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (38.08)
Ranks #27 in the NBA in Turnovers Per Game (2.12)
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And where the hell are you getting your numbers? I don't even have to look anything up, and I'd bet both my nuts that Dwight Howard had more FT attempts than Love and Durant made more.
 
Archie, if you where a GM right now and Love was a free agent, what kind of contract would you offer him?
 
Archie Moses said:
Again, I'm not saying he's a top "what ever number you want to insert here" player in the league, he's just not overrated. I don't care who you are, you don't break NBA records for the sole purpose of being on a crappy team, with a crappy coach, with a crappy gm, and no direction. I wouldn't build around him either, but I'm not going to say he's "overrated" and Aldridge got robbed. No way. I just don't know what you mean by "overrated". I don't think anyone in the world pimps Love like he's the best basketball player and I guarantee you 99.9% of coaches and players in the NBA respect him and his game.
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I respect his game too, but I can think of two specific times he played against the Jazz and both times he put up huge numbers, but Millsap was the much better player. Look, I think numbers do a good job of evaluating a players performance, but I don't base everything on the numbers they put up.
 
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