Roy was always regarded as a good passer. Brooks has a neg. assist/turnover ratio. I just see him as a good mid-range player if he'll pass.
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That is such a garbage argument. If Carlos Arroyo can average 5 assists (to 2.2 TOs) on a no-talent '03-04 team that went 42-40, the most potent scorer in the Big East can probably find an open teammate. His teammates aren't NBA players, but the competition isn't either. These are still Division I basketball players with scholarships, it's not impossible to finish a layup or hit an open shot. Excuses.
This argument has also been used for Al Jefferson, and it's moot and a cop-out there too. You factor in quality of teammates when a player's assist totals go significantly down after a lot of roster turnover (Deron this year, highlighted by how much his assists went up when he got to a team with a big that could finish a play and a couple of players that could hit a shot).
Park Bites
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He compares himself to kobe Bryant.
His 4.1 APG/2.3 TPG disagrees (nearly 2:1 Ast/TO ratio). The knock on Brandon Roy was his knees.
Humble.
Park Bites
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Ok need help from the stat gurus? I was wondering if they have a +/- for college players. I would like to know what the team +/- while players are playing vs while they are sitting.
Good players make their team mates better just by being on the court.
Good players make their team mates better just by being on the court.
Seriously, though, I agree .. but Providence had only one player on the team that shot a higher % than Marshon (and that's not saying much, at all). Defenses backed off, packed the lane, and made it very difficult for this non-shooting team to score. If you have no perimeter game (as a team) and the opposing team backs-off, TO's go up.
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Hollinger has a +/- but it's never really updated. Not a popularly used stat in college.
There is one, but I don't know how to find it. DX usually provides a chart every year that's sortable in a bunch of different metrics.
I'm also highly anticipating their situational statistics by position on players in the draft (especially PGs, particularly how my guys projected to go in the 20s [Charles Jenkins, Reggie Jackson, and Darius Morris] fare) report.
I'm a DX junkie. I wish I knew how to get a hold of these stats without them since I don't like to be too reliant on one source (as a general rule).
