Umm, do you know what "blackhole" means as it pertains to basketball?
Also, is Favors supposed to score more playing next to a guy that doesn't know how to play in a structured offense or recognize or know how to properly react to a double-team?
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Umm, do you know what "blackhole" means as it pertains to basketball?
Also, is Favors supposed to score more playing next to a guy that doesn't know how to play in a structured offense or recognize or know how to properly react to a double-team?
billyshelby
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Yes, I'm well aware of what you're referring to. But so is he probably since his point seems to be a Favors/Gasol frontcourt has no low post scoring option. Pretty tough to win that way.
Beantown
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Passing. It's about passing. You're kidding me, right? A "blackhole" player is a guy that doesn't pass the ball. You're joking.
Beantown
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Exactly.
billyshelby
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I'd be more worried about a frontcourt that couldn't score than one that wouldn't pass. But to play along, I think Al is going to improve a lot as a passer. The reason I think that is because he's a willing passer and a team player even more than Boozer. He's just never played in a system that A) required him to do it and B) where there were actual passing options.
I'd love for Locke to do something useful and analyze all our offensive possessions after 14 seconds on the shot clock had elapsed. In the first 14, the ball often went down low to Al and he either did his work in the post or passed it back out to the perimeter. In the last 10, he frequently wound up with the ball in his hands while nobody did anything. Consequently, Al 'can't pass.'
Horse-****. Show me one.
It's not just about passing, it's that he is behind the play and reacting slow constantly, and he takes up an acre inside, so the offense stops half the time. The argument that Jefferson will suddenly learn how to play in an offense and pass well is an even worse one than that Jimmer will suddenly play defense well on his first attempt in the NBA.
Anyway, we don't agree on Jefferson, and there is nothing you can say to change my mind and there's nothing I can say to change yours. All I will say to tail this discussion is that Favors has a lot of room to grow and needs opportunities, and Gasol is playing 3rd fiddle in Memphis as a very young player as well. I don't think you can argue that Jefferson is an ideal partner to help Favors grow, but that's just an opinion I guess and I don't want to derail anymore.
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billyshelby
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This is kind of my point. The offense didn't stop when Al had the ball in his hands, it never ran. I'd be on your team if I could remember lots of times Al missed open cutters while he focused on his shot. But that rarely happened.
Last year, we ran the O for 14 seconds. When the cuts didn't work (the most telling reason Bell is a horrible fit in our offense), the ball went to Deron or Al (on the starting unit) and they made something happen. Al's supposed inability to pass really isn't the issue because the other working parts didn't work.