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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

I would rather have Holiday over Wall regardless of contract.

I think Wall the player is useful, but I wouldn't want any part of the contract and he's not the guy I'd want in the locker room.
I agree with you. I wouldn't want Wall but if NOLA wants him, I think they have to send somebody back of value. There are still dumb GMs out there who might swing on Wall. Washington won't just dump him for an expiring.

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I'm somewhat in this boat... You can use Boston as pseudo-leverage by just saying you'll wait unless LA gives up the full treasure trove. LBJ only has so many years left so getting an AD/LBJ year in now has tremendous value.

I'd ask for Ingram/Wagner/3 firsts/ and let them choose between Hart and Kuzma (i think they'd retain Kuzma)... add in whatever else to match salary. Unless Boston tells NO they will put Tatum in the deal this summer that is as good as I think Boston could do. NO should fall to the bottom of the conference this year... making an #8 seed looks hard right now and won't prove anything to AD.
This only makes sense to me if you think the Lakers have the better package on offer. I don't think the Lakers best offer would beat out the Celtics best offer, if anything NOLA should use the Lakers as leverage to get Ainge to part with Tatum as he's clearly the best player that either team could offer in return for AD without parting with their star players.
 
I've watched more Knicks basketball than I care to admit... everytime I watch I'm super impressed by Noah Vonleh. He does a lot of the stuff we like about Favs and has added a three point shot. Young dude still and has filled out amazingly well. I'm interested in adding him if we let Favs walk or moved on... Has kind of a PJ Tucker vibe to him.
 
I've watched more Knicks basketball than I care to admit... everytime I watch I'm super impressed by Noah Vonleh. He does a lot of the stuff we like about Favs and has added a three point shot. Young dude still and has filled out amazingly well. I'm interested in adding him if we let Favs walk or moved on... Has kind of a PJ Tucker vibe to him.
How has Mudiay been?
 
How has Mudiay been?

I haven't caught his big games... He's been okay when I've watched certainly better than he was in Denver, but he was really bad in Denver. I think he's a useful basketball player... don't think he's completely unplayable like an MCW.
 
I've mostly been watching to try and see how I truly feel on Tim Hardaway Jr., and mostly so I can confirm my initial opinion and tell @Saint Cy of JFC he's wrong... sadly my findings have not been great thus far.
 
Keep an eye on certain players who were high draft picks, but take a few years to develop. Oladipo was one of those and was considered a bad contract when he was in OKC. See if guys like Kris Dunn or Emanuel Mudiay show signs. They're at least NBA athletes.
 
I've watched more Knicks basketball than I care to admit... everytime I watch I'm super impressed by Noah Vonleh. He does a lot of the stuff we like about Favs and has added a three point shot. Young dude still and has filled out amazingly well. I'm interested in adding him if we let Favs walk or moved on... Has kind of a PJ Tucker vibe to him.
I agree with your assessment. I like Vonleh a lot too.

I'm a fan a few Knick players:
Vonleh
Ntilikina
Dotson

I bet we can have one or two of the above if we were to take Courtney Lee and his $12.7 for next year.

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DL’s hand is going to be forced soon on creating more offense. When our defense is good, but our defensive focus and intensity wanes when we can score the damn ball, we’ll see that a number of our issues aren’t magically fixed by strength of schedule.

On another note, a year and a half ago we traded up to draft a guy who plays only one position, and it’s the position of our best player. Not to mention that we’re already playing one of our better guys out of position because he can’t get enough minutes at his natural position because our best player plays that position. Plus we also have the best defender in the world who can’t sniff anything more than occasional garbage time. So we’ve got this guy who’s played 28 total NBA minutes. We’re a third of the way through the season, and he’s yet to log a single damn minute this year.

Like it or not, I’ve seen the future, and DL will be backed into a corner where he will have to kick the tires on Jabari. Favors, Bradley, and a second round pick are moving to Chicago. The only teams I could see moving for Jabari would be Houston or Sacramento. Maybe NOP desperation move. But I think only Houston would even be in the ball park of offering a first rounder. They may take a flyer on Bradley and I’d like to believe that we could throw in Tomic for teh lolz.
 
DL’s hand is going to be forced soon on creating more offense. When our defense is good, but our defensive focus and intensity wanes when we can score the damn ball, we’ll see that a number of our issues aren’t magically fixed by strength of schedule.

On another note, a year and a half ago we traded up to draft a guy who plays only one position, and it’s the position of our best player. Not to mention that we’re already playing one of our better guys out of position because he can’t get enough minutes at his natural position because our best player plays that position. Plus we also have the best defender in the world who can’t sniff anything more than occasional garbage time. So we’ve got this guy who’s played 28 total NBA minutes. We’re a third of the way through the season, and he’s yet to log a single damn minute this year.

Like it or not, I’ve seen the future, and DL will be backed into a corner where he will have to kick the tires on Jabari. Favors, Bradley, and a second round pick are moving to Chicago. The only teams I could see moving for Jabari would be Houston or Sacramento. Maybe NOP desperation move. But I think only Houston would even be in the ball park of offering a first rounder. They may take a flyer on Bradley and I’d like to believe that we could throw in Tomic for teh lolz.

No way. I’m not giving them a perfectly functional Favors for a bad player and a malcontent... definitely not adding to the package. If Favs is moved it will be for OP Jr., Gallo, or to a playoff team in need of a center (if there was a team that suffered an injury). I could see the first round deal with the teams you proposed if Randle or Capela got hurt... but the cap relief would be as important as the player there... and our season would have to go to **** quickly for DL to give up FA dreams... even then I don’t think he’d do it unless the pick was juicy (only like top 8 protected).

If we brought Jabari in it would only be because he was bought out and we can get him on a cheap 2 year make good deal.
 
No way. I’m not giving them a perfectly functional Favors for a bad player and a malcontent... definitely not adding to the package. If Favs is moved it will be for OP Jr., Gallo, or to a playoff team in need of a center (if there was a team that suffered an injury). I could see the first round deal with the teams you proposed if Randle or Capela got hurt... but the cap relief would be as important as the player there... and our season would have to go to **** quickly for DL to give up FA dreams... even then I don’t think he’d do it unless the pick was juicy (only like top 8 protected).

If we brought Jabari in it would only be because he was bought out and we can get him on a cheap 2 year make good deal.
I would much prefer Gallo, but he’s played his way out of our range. I think when all is said and done, the only way we can add offense is Jabari, unless WAS is blowing it up and we view Otto Porter as the next guy for a Tobias Harris jump.
 
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