2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by LoPo, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2018 Award Winner

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    We’re coming out with Kevin Love. And we’re probably sending out a first and second for it.
     

  2. jom2003

    jom2003 Well-Known Member

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    Love is just another glorified version of melo at this point
     
  3. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Since when? He just came back from injury, and last time he played (before injury), he was still quite good.
     
  4. jom2003

    jom2003 Well-Known Member

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    you mean averaging 16 pints on 31% shooting with a whopping -4.7 BPM in the five games while he's on the court? melo actually did better with OKC last year. not to mention he's the very definition of "injury prone", no thanks
     
  5. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    That's a tiny *** sample where his shot didn't fall. Last season he played well. We shouldn't make sweeping conclusions based on a 100 minutes of play time.
     
  6. jom2003

    jom2003 Well-Known Member

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    tiny sample size, yes. but still can't negate all the negatives on him. the jazz should look for upside players on their way up, not some washed-up stars used-to-be on their way down. unless it comes at a cheap price like Iso-Joe a couple of years ago, which clearly isn't the case with Love's ridiculous contract.
     
  7. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    I don't disagree with that. No way Love lives up to his contract, and the Jazz shouldn't consider him.
     
  8. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    Lulz at wanting Love. Pretty sure he has four years left at like 30M per.

    People didn’t want Conley’s contract with two years left. And he plays really well both ways. Imagine four years of Love. Ugh.
     
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  9. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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    Cleveland would have to give away an asset to trade Love. Why would they give up an asset when they are rebuilding and have to pay somebody?
     
  10. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Right. They'll pray he plays well enough for someone to give em expirings for him.
     
  11. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    The funny **** is if we did any of the moves we wanted and lost in the 2nd round again (likely even with Conley), people would be bitching that we traded into a capped out roster.
     
  12. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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    Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”

    Relying on free agency when, outside of one year in our franchise history, we don't attract good free agents is insanity. I'm patient enough to judge DL after this summer, but if we roll out the same core roster 3 years in a row, the backlash is deserved.
     
  13. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    This thread just won't die
     
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  14. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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    Somebody can close it for sure.

    I don't know what the record is for posts in a thread, but 8,000 posts in a thread only open for 2 months is pretty crazy.
     
  15. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure you are guilty for half of them :D
     
  16. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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  17. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2018 Award Winner

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    Pretty sure we’ll be trading for him this summer and giving up an asset to do so.

    It’s kind of like coach pitch where there are no strikes or balls, but you get 7 total pitches to either hit or be out. DL watched the first three go by, and everyone was happy because, with 7 pitches, it only takes one good one to swing away and get on base, and he was afforded the opportunity to watch a few pass. Now a couple balls have been thrown that, depending on vantage point, could have warranted a swing, but he’s waiting for the right pitch. Pitch 6 came in and it was just a bit outside — no problem — except now you have one pitch left, and regardless where it gets thrown, you’ll be swinging at it. The 7th pitch is Kevin Love.
     
  18. LoPo

    LoPo Well-Known Member

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    Let's just say for a second that this is the plan. If so, we should have just done it at this deadline. Think about it...

    1. Favors and Thabo for Love
    2. This summer, Cleveland declines Favors' option
    3. We use the full MLE to sign Favors
    4. Re-sign Rubio
    5. We would have the same roster but Love instead of Favors. Next season, it's the same roster but Love PLUS Favors. Incredible depth.

    If we get Love this summer, it comes at the expense of Rubio and/or Favors. That's one of the biggest mistakes about not using our expirings to add a player. We are going to lose the advantages that over the cap teams have. When you are under the cap, you only can use the $4.5 million exception. When you are over, you get the MLE to use over 2 years.
     
  19. The Fresh Prince

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    Why cant we have an aggressive GM? Some moves that we do make this franchise feel like they are 20 years behind the times as far as building a team goes. Its pretty depressing and boring when we already know what to expect of a team that looks almost as identical as it did a year ago.
     
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  20. jom2003

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    Yeah ,DL is even making me miss KOC, which is bad... At least KOC was aggressive in the market and got us Okur and Boozer.
     

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