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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Handlogten's Heros said:
I doubt they would have found a taker on wall... maybe in the offseason but not mid year... I also wonder if the heal issue would have been flagged in the physical.
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I was reading some long shot rumours about the Knicks potentially taking a flyer on John Wall. Made some sense to me as it gives the Knicks a player with some star potential to put alongside Porzingis next year while keeping their tank in tact for this year, and depending on who they trade they might still have room for a KD level max next offseason (e.g. Hardaway Jr + Lee). Probably the only team in the league I can think of that wouldn't ask a lot out of Washington in terms of picks either since they're swapping a bunch of bad contracts.

It was an interesting trade rumour to me and I think it makes some sense to a degree for both sides. Wall/Dotson/Knox/Durant/KP with Zion off the bench is an interesting core group of players, and the Wizards get to move forward with Beal/Porter Jr and two fat expirings in Hardaway Jr and Lee that they could keep or use in another trade down the road.
 
Sandman822 said:
I was reading some long shot rumours about the Knicks potentially taking a flyer on John Wall. Made some sense to me as it gives the Knicks a player with some star potential to put alongside Porzingis next year while keeping their tank in tact for this year, and depending on who they trade they might still have room for a KD level max next offseason (e.g. Hardaway Jr + Lee). Probably the only team in the league I can think of that wouldn't ask a lot out of Washington in terms of picks either since they're swapping a bunch of bad contracts.

It was an interesting trade rumour to me and I think it makes some sense to a degree for both sides. Wall/Dotson/Knox/Durant/KP with Zion off the bench is an interesting core group of players, and the Wizards get to move forward with Beal/Porter Jr and two fat expirings in Hardaway Jr and Lee that they could keep or use in another trade down the road.
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Not sure how that'd work this offseason because Wall's number jumps to like $40M and NY still doesn't have the space for a max KD deal. Maybe it was pre-Noah waive and stretch. Matching salary now would only leave them with a lot less space next year.

It only takes one sucker though... so maybe they could have found one for Wall.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Not sure how that'd work this offseason because Wall's number jumps to like $40M and NY still doesn't have the space for a max KD deal. Maybe it was pre-Noah waive and stretch. Matching salary now would only leave them with a lot less space next year.

It only takes one sucker though... so maybe they could have found one for Wall.
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Yeah I didn't take a real in depth look at the numbers, but the Knicks do project to have a ton of cap space in the offseason and if they could get off Hardaway Jr + Lee's money and get a John Wall there instead they might still have the space to make another signing. Would have to check the numbers.
 
Sandman822 said:
lol that's a large reason why I think it makes some sense. Who knows, maybe playing in the Big Apple would light a fire under Wall's *** when he gets boo'd in his first game for showing up overweight.
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They'd just need to max out Boogie and then they've got their next Big 3.
 
Sandman822 said:
Yeah I didn't take a real in depth look at the numbers, but the Knicks do project to have a ton of cap space in the offseason and if they could get off Hardaway Jr + Lee's money and get a John Wall there instead they might still have the space to make another signing. Would have to check the numbers.
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They have space, but even if the renounce everyone and land with pick #5 they still don't have max space until they waive and stretch Lee or move one of Lee or Tim Hardaway Jr.

If they waive and stretch Lee they are close to the KD max, but it is $38M... they certainly can get to max space, but not there yet... which is why I don't buy they would really consider Wall.

They still have some cap clearing to do if they want to be a big player in FA. If they land the #1 pick that'd be great, but those high picks come with good sized cap holds.. almost $10M for #1.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They have space, but even if the renounce everyone and land with pick #5 they still don't have max space until they waive and stretch Lee or move one of Lee or Tim Hardaway Jr.

If they waive and stretch Lee they are close to the KD max, but it is $38M... they certainly can get to max space, but not there yet... which is why I don't buy they would really consider Wall.

They still have some cap clearing to do if they want to be a big player in FA. If they land the #1 pick that'd be great, but those high picks come with good sized cap holds.. almost $10M for #1.
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Good info, thanks mate. I tried them trading Lee/Hardaway for Wall and even then the money is a bit too much between all of their contracts/Noah's dead money/1st round pick money/Porzingis' cap hold.

There's potential in the offseason though for a deal after they sign a FA potentially. I think Hardaway/Lee/Thomas pretty much gets them there, might have to throw in Trier or someone too
 
MVP said:
Not a trade but just worth mentioning that former nr. 1 pick is tearing up the G league now. I hope he can get another crack at NBA. Shooting 3's at this absurd percentage may be worth giving him a shot?
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Anything that we can do to try to help the scoring output on the team is worth a shot. Low risk/High reward type of move on the cheap too.
 
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