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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

To get Niko and Holiday I think it'd require a first, Exum (if he has value), Grayson and whatever expirings the other team(s) wanted. Honestly they might do better with another team's offer.
 
mikenielsen said:
Would you trade AD for a package involving Gobert? That's what it would take. Imagine what Quin could do with AD. A top 10-15 player for a top 5 MVP type player.
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Tough question. I think my answer is "not unless AD has indicated some desire to play for Utah long term". Because if AD doesn't want to play for the Jazz we're not talking about Rudy vs AD for just 2.5 seasons. We're talking about Rudy for 15 seasons vs AD for 2.5 seasons.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Yes?

Do I have a history of making serious, completely unrealistic, trade scenarios?
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I don't know. I don't whine enough about other people to notice.

But in all seriousness, what was completely unrealistic about the idea I presented. You think NOLA would have an issue with an initial offer of Exum, 2 1st round picks and 2 2nd round picks for expiring Mirotic and Jrue Holiday in a PG heavy league?
 
shipping AD to the east is the best outcome for us. West is already stacked with talents, and we don't want any further complications in fighting for the playoffs. And in terms of AD's likely destination I hope Nets gets him. One or two of D'angelo/Dinwiddie/Levert + RHJ/Harris/Kurucs + a couple of picks should be able to get the job done. Boston can ** themselves.
 
colton said:
Tough question. I think my answer is "not unless AD has indicated some desire to play for Utah long term". Because if AD doesn't want to play for the Jazz we're not talking about Rudy vs AD for just 2.5 seasons. We're talking about Rudy for 15 seasons vs AD for 2.5 seasons.
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Couldn't do it... Rudy is too much of our identity and has completely bought into what we are doing. He is really underrated when it comes to the general NBA in winning basketball games. Some markets can trade anyone... I don't think we could do it with a guy that means this much to the franchise and it's heart.
 
LoPo said:
I don't know. I don't whine enough about other people to notice.

But in all seriousness, what was completely unrealistic about the idea I presented. You think NOLA would have an issue with Exum, 2 1st round picks and 2 2nd round picks for expiring Mirotic and Jrue Holiday in a PG heavy league?
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Jrue Holiday and Mirotic and we only give up Favors Exum Sef and a first is not happening. Why is New Orleans giving up their remaining best players to get some mid tier first rounders, some low ceiling players, and the privilege of taking the terrible Biyombo contract? They don't even get Favors! The best non Pelican being moved.
 
I could see Toronto throwing Siakham, OG, and JV on the table for AD... Ujiri has some freaking stones. They are all in on this year anyway right? If it doesn't work flip AD this offseason if you need to re-build.
 
Who are the teams who want and have the expendable contracts for Jrue Holiday?

Toronto - but they don't have a pick
Portland - they could use McCollum I guess
Detroit - they would love him
San Antonio - but they lack a good young asset
Charlotte - he fits there
Denver - does NOLA want Millsap and a pick in a later year?
Orlando - would take a 3rd team wanting a bad contract
Phoenix - not going to send their pick
Sacramento - they don't have a pick

None of the other teams make sense because they are either in tank mode or don't have a contract(s) to send back to make it work.

Exum, 2 1st round picks and even Grayson isn't a bad offer.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Jrue Holiday and Mirotic and we only give up Favors Exum Sef and a first is not happening. Why is New Orleans giving up their remaining best players to get some mid tier first rounders, some low ceiling players, and the privilege of taking the terrible Biyombo contract?
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I don't think it's completely crazy, but we are assuming Exum has value... he likely doesn't... I don't think Niko has a ton of value unless they take on salary. Jrue is such a flexible piece that I think more than a few teams would line up to make offers. Like Porty could add him and play him at the three... I could see Indy throwing either Turner or Sabonis into that type of trade. Lots of teams would have interest.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Jrue Holiday and Mirotic and we only give up Favors Exum Sef and a first is not happening. Why is New Orleans giving up their remaining best players to get some mid tier first rounders, some low ceiling players, and the privilege of taking the terrible Biyombo contract? They don't even get Favors! The best non Pelican being moved.
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They would rather have Biyombo than Favors this year because they go into tank mode. That's why they would trade Jrue in the first place.

On the current roster, Jrue, AD, Mirotic and Randle are the only players with any value. Well, 2 of those guys are expirings which means they get very little back in a trade. The last guy is Jrue who is paid quite a bit. In a league full of starting PG's, there isn't going to be a huge market for a $27 million PG/SG who is not the main guy.
 
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