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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Handlogten's Heros said:
I get it... but he's a free agent... keeping Niko means his option ain't getting picked up. While he made some extra dough and is a chill dude it's still a lot of money and he's human.

I do think Philly would do a little more for Niko... in the dunc'd on pod he went for a 1st to portland... Harkless went to Sacramento, so there were other parts. We likely have cash and some cap space we can eat, but our seconds are high 40s or low 50s... not much value there.
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If we are willing to spend $33 million on Tobias Harris, why wouldn't we want to spend $37-40 million on Mirotic AND Favors? I personally wouldn't spend much over $20-25 for Mirotic. We have a bunch of money under the luxury so we can afford to pay Mirotic and pick up Favors' option.

As for what it takes to get him, I'm not sure. Thabo, Udoh and 2nd's relieves NOLA from any financial obligation for next year. NOLA might get a 1st from Portland, but that's going to come with a big contract for 2019-20. Maybe we send our first, but I just don't think it's worth a 1st. I'll be pretty shocked if NOLA gets a 1st for hurt expiring Mirotic.
 
LoPo said:
If we are willing to spend $33 million on Tobias Harris, why wouldn't we want to spend $37-40 million on Mirotic AND Favors? I personally wouldn't spend much over $20-25 for Mirotic. We have a bunch of money under the luxury so we can afford to pay Mirotic and pick up Favors' option.

As for what it takes to get him, I'm not sure. Thabo, Udoh and 2nd's relieves NOLA from any financial obligation for next year. NOLA might get a 1st from Portland, but that's going to come with a big contract for 2019-20. Maybe we send our first, but I just don't think it's worth a 1st. I'll be pretty shocked if NOLA gets a 1st for hurt expiring Mirotic.
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I would too for what it's worth... I just think there will be suitors with really good seconds.

Tobias is just a lot better than Niko+Favs. Watched him a lot lately and he's just carrying that team right now... he would be perfect. If we got Niko/Favs we can still go hard at Tobias and have the Niko Favs to fall back on. Limiting minutes for Favs/Rudy/Crowder/Niko may get more out of the group as a whole... coaching staff would need to do some ego management. IDK... could work well. Gives another potential hot hand... when we get a good Ingles/Crowder/Ricky shooting night its such a huge boost.
 
infection said:
He was very obtainable last year, too.
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Exactly and we had a megathread for him... he's equal to or greater than last year's obtainability. I think you are gun shy... I need you to remind me why he is the answer.
 
Alfalfa said:
I think those who want Niko assume Favors will be traded, or at least will not have his option picked up.
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I was responding to these two posts. I should have quoted them in my last post.

LoPo said:
If we are willing to spend $33 million on Tobias Harris, why wouldn't we want to spend $37-40 million on Mirotic AND Favors? I personally wouldn't spend much over $20-25 for Mirotic. We have a bunch of money under the luxury so we can afford to pay Mirotic and pick up Favors' option.
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Handlogten's Heros said:
I would too for what it's worth... I just think there will be suitors with really good seconds.

Tobias is just a lot better than Niko+Favs. Watched him a lot lately and he's just carrying that team right now... he would be perfect. If we got Niko/Favs we can still go hard at Tobias and have the Niko Favs to fall back on. Limiting minutes for Favs/Rudy/Crowder/Niko may get more out of the group as a whole... coaching staff would need to do some ego management. IDK... could work well. Gives another potential hot hand... when we get a good Ingles/Crowder/Ricky shooting night its such a huge boost.
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Handlogten's Heros said:
I would too for what it's worth... I just think there will be suitors with really good seconds.

Tobias is just a lot better than Niko+Favs. Watched him a lot lately and he's just carrying that team right now... he would be perfect. If we got Niko/Favs we can still go hard at Tobias and have the Niko Favs to fall back on. Limiting minutes for Favs/Rudy/Crowder/Niko may get more out of the group as a whole... coaching staff would need to do some ego management. IDK... could work well. Gives another potential hot hand... when we get a good Ingles/Crowder/Ricky shooting night its such a huge boost.
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I would rather have Tobias than Favors/Niko too, but Favors/Niko is pretty comprehensive post cover.

In December and January, Niang is playing about 7.5mpg. Gobert is playing over 33mpg. Jae is playing around 30mpg. Favors is playing around 23mpg. Ingles is playing 33mpg.

I'm very certain that Niko and Favors would both get about 20mpg if we eliminated Niang while giving Jae, Joe and Gobert more rest.
 
Jingled said:
How would we possibly find minutes for Favors, Crowder and Niko?
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Favs becomes exclusively a backup center. Niko or Crowder start. Favs would go down to 14-16 minutes per game if everyone is healthy. Crowder drops from 27.5 where he currently is to 23 ish and Niko picks up the 23-24 minutes per game. Rudy likely drops a few minutes a night, but for Crowder and Niko I think those minutes are fine.

Favs has to sacrifice his starting status and 1/3 of his minutes... he would likely be salty about it and rightfully so... I think it would hurt our locker room a bit. Maybe not
 
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