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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Way late, but when was the last time a team made an in-season trade that led to the title? Pistons of 2004? When was the last trade of any consequence that led to a title, Pau Gasol in 2008 (in-season but didn't win until subsequent years)? Draft and free agent signings win NBA titles. Not making big swings in trades.
Is our goal with a trade this year to win the 2019 title? As far as any trade, I’d say Shaq to Miami, LeBron and Bosh (depending on how you look at that), George Hill for Kawhi Leonard, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett, Kevin Love and Cleveland. I mean, with the exception the Warriors (who have won three), that’s pretty much every title in recent history.
 
Is our goal with a trade this year to win the 2019 title? As far as any trade, I’d say Shaq to Miami, LeBron and Bosh (depending on how you look at that), George Hill for Kawhi Leonard, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett, Kevin Love and Cleveland. I mean, with the exception the Warriors (who have won three), that’s pretty much every title in recent history.

He said in season.

Warriors moved monta for bogut in season... helped with title and their end of season tank.

There are always moves... big and small that matter.
 
He said in season.

Warriors moved monta for bogut in season... helped with title and their end of season tank.

There are always moves... big and small that matter.
He seemed to open it up to “any trade of significance,” or at least that’s how I took it. In any case, I don’t think a mid-season trade and a championship is the way to look at things. Championships are an accumulation of a lot of good decisions. It’s like saying “when was the last time a team won a championship with a strong defensive center who wasn’t a scoring threat?” and saying because Bogut and Chandler are the only good examples in the last 14 years, that you shouldn’t focus on a defensive center.
 
He seemed to open it up to “any trade of significance,” or at least that’s how I took it. In any case, I don’t think a mid-season trade and a championship is the way to look at things. Championships are an accumulation of a lot of good decisions. It’s like saying “when was the last time a team won a championship with a strong defensive center who wasn’t a scoring threat?” and saying because Bogut and Chandler are the only good examples in the last 14 years, that you shouldn’t focus on a defensive center.

With you 100%

My least favorite thing is “so Tobias is the piece that helps us beat GS?” Maybe not but gets you closer.

Have to get lucky breaks and hit on a lot of moves.
 
If we can do some sort of trade for a low-cost, backup center or veteran point guard then I’m all for it. Anything else... not so exited, unless it’s that sure fire third star.
 
Favors, Rubio and picks for Jrue and Mirotic, Exum for Dewayne Dedmon.
 
Some will say he’s overpaid but nba gms likely don’t feel that way at all.

Philly could trump our offer... I could see Phoenix sending out their pick if it fell outside top 3... lots of teams can beat an offer of mediocre firsts... Allen and Exum don’t have much value.
So outside of Phoenix, Philly, Orlando and maybe some dark horse like Portland, we really don't know the market for Jrue. There just aren't that many buyers for a 28 year old PG/SG with $80 million left on his deal after this year.

For us, it's a no brainer. For almost every other team, there is a reason not to (Phoenix age, Orlando pick too high, Philly wants a bigger star, etc).

And its very important to remember - if NOLA goes full on tank, expirings and picks for Jrue makes sense. Paying a good PG/SG max type money for 3 years when you are trying to rebuild just doesn't make sense.

We can definitely get beat by a better offer, but there has to be a buyer as willing as us. I dont know if that exists.

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https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-pelicans-anthony-davis-fined-20190129-story.html

"According to sources, the Pelicans view Ball as a player who would become the starting point guard. They don’t see Jrue Holiday as a point guard because he “doesn’t want to be a point guard,” one source said."

This doesn't mean NOLA doesn't want Jrue, but it also means they want to give the keys to the car to Lonzo. The source also said NOLA likes Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac and picks too. I just have a hard time believing that Jrue fits the long term vision of a Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma led team.

I could be wrong...

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