2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[zyzz]

Zachary Lowe:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...expect?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Memphis wants more than two veterans who can walk in a few months, plus a pick in the 20s, sources say.

I don't really want to trade Favors in the Conley deal unless Utah is positive they could use their MLE on someone like Robin Lopez or DeAndre Jordan in the buyout market and that seems pretty unlikely...

 

[David Stern]

I think the time is to do it now.

If you are confident in your talent evaluation then you act before someone does it before you.

The talent is there. The biggest question mark is the health of his knee imo. So thats why you do it now. You test him out, while he is "cheap" asset wise, and see if he is worth the gamble of ever thinking about giving him any kind of lengthy contract. Getting him now is the least risky of all the ideas.

The more time you have to evaluate his fit and health the better. Waiting for the waivers is a risk too. You might never the chance to see.

I understand this, but I’d prefer to sign him for super cheap in the offseason. I think there’s a realistic chance that happens too.

 

[elan_prodigy]

You nuked the starting PF/backup C, the backup PF, and the 3rd string PF for Mirotic which means the Jazz are playing Niang/Udoh as the backup frontcourt.

NOLA gets Crowder and Favs but giving up Randle, Mirotic + their 2nd means they're awfully thin in the front court unless you consider Jahlil Okafor to be an actual rotation player (I don't), and I don't think you can make that trade assuming they get the right pieces back from the AD trade. Favs is also an expiring so unless you're confident in him re-signing he just walks, which might be nice for NOLA to save some money but then you're ultra thin in the frontcourt.

MEM are basically only getting a late 1st and a 2nd since Rubio/Thabo are expirings that they likely don't re-sign, and Randle isn't a controlled asset and has a player option so unless you're ultra confident you can get Randle to re-sign with you he's likely just another expiring too who walks to a contending team in the offseason.

Conley/Exum
DM/Korver
Ingles/Oneal
Mirotic/Niang
Gobert/Udoh/Bradley

O'Neal and Ingles can play minutes at PF and if you really want depth go give Trevor Booker a call. That lineup gives incredible space for DM to operate. Also, you know Favs is leaving right? Getting something for him and Rubio is important, expirings are only valuable if you use them in a trade.

NOs will be tanking this year so why do they care how thin they are? How thin will they be when they get 5 Lakers for AD?? Crowder is solid on a good contract and fits.

Lonzo
Jrue/Hart
Ingram
Kuzma/Crowder
Favors/Zubac

Mem wants picks too rebuild. They can flip those expirings for more picks if they wanted. Randle would have some value to a contender.

 

[Shad]

Do not trade Favors, Rubio, a first, and/or Exum/Allen for Mike. That is robbery and we would be way worse

 

[Stoked]

Do not trade Favors, Rubio, a first, and/or Exum/Allen for Mike. That is robbery and we would be way worse [/QOUTE]

I think Conley is overrated. He definitely is overpaid. Making a trade for him would be a bad move imo.

I would love to get Jrue though. Otherwise, we really should just put Donovan at the 1 and make a different move like Niko or Jabari.

It’s official. I’m in. This is like a cosmic guarantee that this deal is good for us and will get us to that next level.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Wow, this was a very informative and interesting article. Thanks.

I’ve been holding out hope for two deals. But it appears one is max and then some possible move this off season.

Jazz are apparently in play for Conley and/or Mirotic. The negotiation process will come to a head in the next few days. The thing that intrigues me though is Aaron Gordon.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I don't really want to trade Favors in the Conley deal unless Utah is positive they could use their MLE on someone like Robin Lopez or DeAndre Jordan in the buyout market and that seems pretty unlikely...

I'd like a shiny new bicycle. Doesn't mean it's going to happen. The market for Conley is pretty thin, basically Utah and Detroit. Detroit wants to move Reggie Jackson who sucks.

Portland would like to move Evan Turner and Mo Harkless for Mirotic. They'll put a 1st-rd pick in play though.

 

[Jazz]

He's 6'1 big problems coming

 

[Sandman822]

Conley/Exum
DM/Korver
Ingles/Oneal
Mirotic/Niang
Gobert/Udoh/Bradley

O'Neal and Ingles can play minutes at PF and if you really want depth go give Trevor Booker a call. That lineup gives incredible space for DM to operate. Also, you know Favs is leaving right? Getting something for him and Rubio is important.

NOs will be tanking this year so why do they care how thin they are? How thin will they be when they get 5 Lakers for AD?? Crowder is solid on a good contract and fits.

Mem wants picks too rebuild. They can flip those expirings for more picks if they wanted. Randle would have some value to a contender.

I don't think the addition of Mirotic outweighs losing Favs/Crowder/Thabo at the PF rotation personally. The idea is you want to pair another floor spacing PF with Crowder not trade him for someone who isn't demonstratively better than him. I think you're vastly underrating Crowder's impact too if you think "give Trevor Booker a call" is a reasonable alternative.

NOLA doesn't want to tank otherwise they'd make Jrue available and really reap in assets, they're one of the worst seeds in the West but without checking the standings there are at least 4 East teams worse than them + the Suns. Crowder doesn't make sense for a tanking team either so either way your idea doesn't make sense for them.

Like I said in the post after you could consider it a win for them but I think a late 1st and a 2nd + cap room isn't really a win. If they were to flip the assets they'd need to do it in the trade most likely.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Now I'm feeling like no trade gets done. The fact that the details of the trade proposal got leaked tells me Memphis leaked it to try and pressure Utah (making it awkward with Rubio).

I don't think Utah increases their offer outside of adding a 2nd round pick.

If Detroit is in it, I could see them giving up a first and Kennard. They are the much more desperate team. They don't have the expirings Utah has, so maybe that gives Utah the edge, but I bet Detroit is willing to put more future assets on the table.

Maybe Utah pivots to focusing on Mirotic.

 

[nateboz]

Anyone else getting a feeling that the trade rumors might be a bait and switch. Like other teams see what the Jazz are possibly offering and putting one of their guys on the table now instead. For some reason I still think Beal makes a ton of sense.

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[Bodhi]

For anyone putting Bradley in our potential C rotations: don’t

He’s not an NBA basketball player