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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

In AK’s rookie year, there was a half where Kobe went off for like 37 and hit a near half-court three at the half-time buzzer, then pounded on the hardwood. In the second half, AK guarded him and completely shut him down. I think he may have even gone scoreless. This was amidst all the AK hype, the fact that we had the tail-end of Stockton and Malone and managed to strike it rich in a draft-and-stash that turned into the ultimate Kobe-killer like we had never seen anyone do to Kobe before. We were elated for quite a while. The problem, however, is that AK never repeated it. Kobe never let that happen again. Had we never seen another match up, we would have assumed AK was the lifetime Kobe Killer.

Now Dante came up huge in the playoffs defending Harden. It’s impressive and it was long enough to say there’s something there. But we can’t neglect that there can be a lot of context added over time and, as awesome as that was, we have to realistically appraise that. When AK was doing that stuff, Don Nelson had approached Larry Miller saying that he’d give anyone on his roster for him. All of us agreed we wouldn’t even give him up for Dirk, and that wasn’t even questioned at the time.

We can’t do the same thing.
 
The Portland and Houston blow out losses when the team couldn't buy a perimeter shot showed the value of Exum off the bench. Even with his garbage finishing ability he's still able to generate easy looks for himself, and he brings the most efficient PPS scorers into the game on the PnR with his lob ability, and his ability to get the help defender to commit to him on a layup which frees up the big man for the offensive put back. If teams decide they're going to collapse on the entire PnR then it leaves shooters wide open for C&S looks instead of having to run blender after blender to get a decent 3pt look.

Quin's adjustment to simplify the bench offense for Exum, stick Joe in there as a shooter and secondary playmaker, and give Exum the freedom to run the most efficient PnR options the Jazz have with Favs or even sometimes Gobert is the best thing he's done adjustment wise all season imo. Selling Exum now would most likely be selling low on him considering how much he showed December, unless you believe his injury concerns will plague him for the rest of his career which is a valid concern.

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I don't think anyone is really upset with Exums talent or abilities. The fact that he's hurt in 67%+ of games is the issue.

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In AK’s rookie year, there was a half where Kobe went off for like 37 and hit a near half-court three at the half-time buzzer, then pounded on the hardwood. In the second half, AK guarded him and completely shut him down. I think he may have even gone scoreless. This was amidst all the AK hype, the fact that we had the tail-end of Stockton and Malone and managed to strike it rich in a draft-and-stash that turned into the ultimate Kobe-killer like we had never seen anyone do to Kobe before. We were elated for quite a while. The problem, however, is that AK never repeated it. Kobe never let that happen again. Had we never seen another match up, we would have assumed AK was the lifetime Kobe Killer.

Now Dante came up huge in the playoffs defending Harden. It’s impressive and it was long enough to say there’s something there. But we can’t neglect that there can be a lot of context added over time and, as awesome as that was, we have to realistically appraise that. When AK was doing that stuff, Don Nelson had approached Larry Miller saying that he’d give anyone on his roster for him. All of us agreed we wouldn’t even give him up for Dirk, and that wasn’t even questioned at the time.

We can’t do the same thing.
It's not even the defense that puts Exum off the table in the Conley deal for example. Between Conley/Royce and even DM to a degree who has improved on that end they can replace Exum's defense rather easily.

The team literally doesn't have a guy who can get to the rim at will, not even Mitchell can do it without having to put on a series of fakes and moves to get there. Rubio can't get by a secondary defender most of the time, neither can Neto. Ingles as the primary guy to do that is a disaster but he can do it in a secondary role on a rotating defense. So when the Jazz' shooting dries up and teams start to sag off them to overhelp on Gobert or Favors and take away the most efficient scoring options the Jazz have, they don't really have any answers to that besides to keep on shooting and hope the shots start falling again. Quin has successfully been able to just simplify the offense with Exum on the floor almost entire based on his ability to get to the rim at will with Favs/Gobert on the PnR and shooters despite having zero mid range pull up game and questionable at best 3pt shooting, and that's the kind of offense the Jazz need when the shots aren't falling. It's not a coincidence that in some of those December games when the Jazz started off slow that the Exum led bench unit brought the Jazz back into games.

edit: if Exum was a dealbreaker for someone who can get to the rim easily like Jrue that would be a huge red flag on the Jazz' management, but for a guy like Conley it makes sense why they'd want to keep Exum in a deal for him.
 

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Joe Ingles calls the Jazz’s trade rumors a “sh*ty situation” for the names of guys in discussion. “It’s not good for anyone especially when you’ve got such a tight group of guys that want to be here, that enjoy being here and play well together so we’ll see what happens,” he said
 

Eric Woodyard


Joe Ingles calls the Jazz’s trade rumors a “sh*ty situation” for the names of guys in discussion. “It’s not good for anyone especially when you’ve got such a tight group of guys that want to be here, that enjoy being here and play well together so we’ll see what happens,” he said[/QUOTE

Ok Joe! What an a**!
 
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