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2020 All-Time Draft - Round 1: silesian vs Ellis269

Who would win in a 7 game series?

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  • Poll closed .
I guess a lot of the respect for Hakeem is because he beat up the Jazz. Those are hard years to look at when Rockets won back to back. Jazz really should have beat them those years. That game 6 the Jazz had Malone play well but that was it. Stockton was 4 for 14 in a real close game. Hakeem and Drexler both dropped 30. Stockton had been solid the rest of the series. Lots of would have could haves for the Jazz.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Is this the most amount of 1st round picks traded away ever?
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Parlayed the 14th pick into two top 5 players.

In terms of realistic winning, team building is not about just adding the most alpha dog high scoring superstars. I think most folks just vote matchups versus how whether the team philosophy makes sense and how well the team would do in a real game. The late 1970s Sixers added superstar stud George McGinnis to Dr J and this was supposed to be the best SG/ SF combo ever. They did not get better. Many teams in this tournament would suffer similar fates.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I am never sure why Hakeem is always drafted in these ahead of Kareem. I think a lot of it is because a good chunk of the board remembers watching Hakeem play and it was during some of their favorite time to watch.
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"Familiarity bias is the preference of the individuals to remain confined to what is familiar to them. They wish to remain within their comfort zone and do not want to take the path never taken. Humans have a tendency to believe more in the choice that they recognize and are aware of."
 
silesian said:
Parlayed the 14th pick into two top 5 players.

In terms of realistic winning, team building is not about just adding the most alpha dog high scoring superstars. I think most folks just vote matchups versus how whether the team philosophy makes sense and how well the team would do in a real game. The late 1970s Sixers added superstar stud George McGinnis to Dr J and this was supposed to be the best SG/ SF combo ever. They did not get better. Many teams in this tournament would suffer similar fates.
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I think team and fit can matter but talent generally trumps that. Two star players being added and not improving the team points to the lack of their talent more than a bad for to me, or possibly regression.

LeBron's and Wade are great examples. They were a terrible fit but figured it out to be great together.
 
In my opinion Hakeem is the best center ever. He’s basically a Hybrid of all the greats. He had the power of Shaq and Wilt. The athletic abilities of Robinson. Shot making of Kareem. Not sure there was a better passing C, and not a better C defensively or in the post thanks to his excellent footwork. IMO he’s the most skilled Center of all time.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I think team and fit can matter but talent generally trumps that. Two star players being added and not improving the team points to the lack of their talent more than a bad for to me, or possibly regression.

LeBron's and Wade are great examples. They were a terrible fit but figured it out to be great together.
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Fair points. But add Allen Iverson to a Jordan team, they get worse. Add Hakeem to a Jabbar team, you’d be better off adding a stretch 5. Add mark Jackson to a Stockton team. Add Nash to Stockton. Maybe they are better team but a better Incremental choice might be a role player like Battier or Cooper or Mutombo, even though Nash is individually better.
 
silesian said:
marc Gasol, jokic, sabonis, Divac, late career wilt, Russell, Noah.

Hakeem was a good passer but not GOAT.
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Maybe he didn’t do it like them, but he made as much of a difference with his passing as any of them. He punished defenses with his passing, because he was such a threat, he found the open man every time, because he knew where the right pass was at all times. There’s a reason Houston always had such good shooting.
 
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