2020 Free Agency Thread

[jom2003]

I think the main difference between this year and last is the realization that the moves we made were trash. If the sole goal was to reduce payroll, they didn't have to resign Clarkson or get Favors back on rich deals. You've got to be kidding me if you don't think the obvious failures of Davis, Bradley, Tucker ect had nothing to do with the moves. Obviously money is a factor, especially when it comes to remaining under the hard cap, but so is the blatantly obvious failed previous moves. If everything was about money and not about previous failures/success, they would have actually done nothing and had a cheaper team.

that is what bothers me. this offseason is an example of an half-hearted attempt. we are trying to contend, only somewhat. trying to duck the tax, only somewhat. and will probably end up failing in both. that is why we didn't want to just trade conley and get out of LT completely because FO somehow still believes that keeping him will give us the best chance at competing for a title. so now we will probably end up paying the tax and embrace yet another season of early round exit.

 

[candrew]

that is what bothers me. this offseason is an example of an half-hearted attempt. we are trying to contend, only somewhat. trying to duck the tax, only somewhat. and will probably end up failing in both.

The Jazz intended to avoid the tax this year.

At this point I'm fairly convinced someone in the front office ****ed up big time.

 

[LoPo]

The Jazz intended to avoid the tax this year.

At this point I'm fairly convinced someone in the front office ****ed up big time.

Its like they went to the grocery store with $100 bill and now they are at the register trying to dump items. Its actually worse than that. They are trying to dump the items they bought last week in order to make the purchases for today.

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[framer]

Do any of you actually know what the exact figures are on the Jazz payroll?

 

[LoPo]

Do any of you actually know what the exact figures are on the Jazz payroll?

I can honestly say I don't.

I'm making an assumption that our salaries are razor thin enough to the luxury that we had to use an asset to dump the $340k on Tucker's guarantee.

So it's conceivable we are slightly under the luxury which might make all the "use 2nds to dump contracts" moves worth it since we know we are a luxury team next year (unless Rudy just walks).

However, if we are within $340k of the luxury and we only have 13 players, we don't really have any flexibility at all to add much should we hit an injury crisis right? We could do a couple 10 day contracts but that's it right?

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[Handlogten's Heros]

Do any of you actually know what the exact figures are on the Jazz payroll?

No but we know enough to do the math. The only thing I’m uncertain on is if you can count two ways as contracts to get you to the minimum 14 players under contract.

 

[candrew]

Do any of you actually know what the exact figures are on the Jazz payroll?

This is not a topic l typically devote a great deal of attention to, but it appears The Jazz are about $250k over the cap.

Spotrac seems to have the most accurate/up to date info on this.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I can honestly say I don't.

I'm making an assumption that our salaries are razor thin enough to the luxury that we had to use an asset to dump the $340k on Tucker's guarantee.

So it's conceivable we are slightly under the luxury which might make all the "use 2nds to dump contracts" moves worth it since we know we are a luxury team next year (unless Rudy just walks).

However, if we are within $340k of the luxury and we only have 13 players, we don't really have any flexibility at all to add much should we hit an injury crisis right? We could do a couple 10 day contracts but that's it right?

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The rules on 2-ways mean you can have those guys on the main roster way more than past years. Even if the Jazz are at 13, they essentially have 15 with Brantley and Forrest.

 

[LoPo]

The rules on 2-ways mean you can have those guys on the main roster way more than past years. Even if the Jazz are at 13, they essentially have 15 with Brantley and Forrest.

I understand, but 2 way contracts allows you to have 15 full roster players plus the 2 2 ways right?

My point is that we really won't be able to add to our 13 full roster guys since we are capped/luxuried out. Is that correct?

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[Handlogten's Heros]

The rules on 2-ways mean you can have those guys on the main roster way more than past years. Even if the Jazz are at 13, they essentially have 15 with Brantley and Forrest.

That’s fine but I’m not sure they count towards the minimum 14 contracts that the cba says you have to have. You can be at 13 for a while but not all season... that I’m not sure on.

 

[infection]

Don’t literal vet minimums not count toward cap? They count as $0 in trades, too, if I’m recalling correctly.

 

[Piso]

Luxury tax threshold : 132,627,000$

Conley+Gobert+Bogdanovic+Clarkson+Ingles+Favors+O'Neale+Mitchell+Azubuike+Niang+Hughes (11 players) = 129,853,416$
Oni+Williams-Goss (13 players) = 132,889,378$ (-262,378$)
Juwan Morgan (14 players) = 134,407,359$ (-1,780,359$)

MLE : Favors