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2020 NBA trade deadline discussion

Who's better in theory on the Jazz? Maker or Udoh. I would say Udoh by far. The Jazz play 4-out not 5-out. Maker is exploitable with some heft and muscle. Udoh is switchable on defense.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
See for yourself... His numbers are ***... I don't care that he had one good game... Also, his team is better defensively when he is off the court...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/makerth01.html

Please don't acquire a guy that is supposed to be a good defender but struggles with effort...
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https://stats.nba.com/vs/advanced/#...1610612749&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs

Except that wasn't true... His team was over 26 points better with him on the floor in their playoffs series against the Celtics.

And Quin is one of the best in business in terms of fixing players effort on D. He's just stuck with players with mediocre tools who can't play defense no matter how hard they try
 
whatthe said:
Who's better in theory on the Jazz? Maker or Udoh. I would say Udoh by far. The Jazz play 4-out not 5-out. Maker is exploitable with some heft and muscle. Udoh is switchable on defense.
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Udoh can switch 1-5 and is currently looking like Hakeem in China.
 
jom2003 said:
https://stats.nba.com/vs/advanced/#...1610612749&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs

Except that wasn't true... His team was over 26 points better was him on the floor in their playoffs series against the Celtics. And Quin is one of the best in business in terms of fixing players effort on D. He's just stuck with players with mediocre tools who can't play defense no matter how hard they try
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This year his team is quite a bit better on defense with him off the court. If he's a defensive ace I don't see how that is the case. Not like he is replacing a great defender... team has a 115 defensive rating with him on the court... that would be like bottom 3 in the league... he also doesn't rebound. If we want to swap him and Ed then great... but I wouldn't play him over TB.
 
infection said:
Udoh can switch 1-5 and is currently looking like Hakeem in China.
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When he got meaningful time his first year with us he was very good... so good that we played him alongside Rudy and Favs at times because we wanted him on the floor and were willing to have multiple non-shooters on the court. He is a solid passer too... If he gets released from his contract DL needs to pause his podcast and call him immediately.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If we want to swap him and Ed then great...
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That is all I was saying though... I never said anything about getting rid of TB. I was discussing a potential trade to get rid of Ed and getting someone useful in return. Same goes for Josh Jackson. Both can be useful to us in some cases. More so than Ed ever will be. I was all for keeping TB as our primary backup C and actually don't think there's any conflict between maker and TB since they play two different roles.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
When he got meaningful time his first year with us he was very good... so good that we played him alongside Rudy and Favs at times because we wanted him on the floor and were willing to have multiple non-shooters on the court. He is a solid passer too... If he gets released from his contract DL needs to pause his podcast and call him immediately.
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We have a lot more options to do that now. Play him and Gobert with any combination of Mitchell, Bojan, Ingles, Clarkson or Conley. Also having a defensive possession lineup of:

Mitchell
Royce
Ingles
Udoh
Gobert
 
infection said:
We have a lot more options to do that now. Play him and Gobert with any combination of Mitchell, Bojan, Ingles, Clarkson or Conley. Also having a defensive possession lineup of:

Mitchell
Royce
Ingles
Udoh
Gobert
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That's a damn good defensive lineup with enough offensive punch. Udoh does cause some problems on offense though, but I think that beats 90% of the teams.
 
Replace Niang with GRIII and Bradley with Udoh. Championships.

Also, I will be ordering the Udoh cameo as soon as it becomes official.
 
jom2003 said:
That is all I was saying though... I never said anything about getting rid of TB. I was discussing a potential trade to get rid of Ed and getting someone useful in return. Same goes for Josh Jackson. Both can be useful to us in some cases. More so than Ed ever will be. I was all for keeping TB as our primary backup C and actually don't think there's any conflict between maker and TB since they play two different roles.
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That's fine, but you argued his virtues and that he was good... they likely won't flip him for Ed's deal... they'd also need to clear more salary this year to avoid the tax.

I just think Maker sucks... If we can flip Ed for an expiring contract anywhere then its a win.
 
whatthe said:
That's a damn good defensive lineup with enough offensive punch. Udoh does cause some problems on offense though, but I think that beats 90% of the teams.
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I'd really just play that lineup at the end of games where there are substitution breaks after each possession.
 
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