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2020 NBA trade deadline discussion

He kind of has a muppet face. I haven't watched him since he left Milwaukee... He wasn't a great fit there because he couldn't shoot and neither could Giannis. He's got decent mobility.

I just don't think you can have any kind of credible defense when your front court is Niang and Bradley. I can't decide if Niang helps us win games... His on/off numbers are still so bad, but he played a lot with the Jeff Green, Ed Davis bench mob that killed us.

John Henson is The Guy Smiley of the NBA. I used to like his game back when he and Sanders were fighting for playing time. Henson is in the last year of a crappy contract 4/48M, so good for him for getting paid though he's not getting that money ever again. He still gets minutes with the Cavs though his minutes widely vary.
 
If we could get Ariza and a big (Baynes, Vonleh, Olynyk, Bogut), I’d give the infection guarantee of at least going as far as 6 games in the WCF.
 
For those curious about Vonleh:

From canishoopus.com's midseason grade write-up today:

"Despite wildly inconsistent minutes and a box score production that is far from flashy, Noah Vonleh has been solid when given the chance this season. He isn’t the 3-point jacking, shot-hunting big man that made a mini-breakthrough for the New York Knicks last season, but he is the kind of player who often makes the team better when he is on the floor. Offensively, he has struggled to make much of an impact outside of the odd bully-ball post-up or putback layup. He is averaging 4.4 points per game, hitting 54.7 percent of his field goals. Although, his work defensively and on the glass has been a breath of fresh air for a team that has struggled to string together consistency in those areas. Only Gorgui Dieng and Robert Covington currently hold a higher D-PIPM (+0.47) than Vonleh and only Karl-Anthony Towns corrals more boards per 36 minutes (12) than him. He has excelled in David Vanterpool’s drop scheme pick-and-roll coverage, using his long arms and sound positioning to deter would-be scorers. Overall, he has been a good find. But, without consistent minutes, Vonleh fails to reach a higher mark."

Also, in trying to gauge what the media/fan buzz around Vonleh is with the Wolves, including his name in possible trades, I can report the following:
  • Very little buzz one way or the other. Fans seem to neither love nor hate him, nor care too much whether he plays or doesn't.
  • Most generally regard him as competent, but certainly not a ceiling-raiser.
  • A few think he's not good enough to be an NBA player.
  • He received a bit of flack recently after apparently being destroyed by Sabonis.
  • A few have mentioned trading him as a possible way to gain an asset. But there's very little sense that the Wolves are or ought to be aggressively looking to find something for him. (My interpretation: Jazz would be in a position of weakness in the trade negotiation, if they are interested, as likely the more motivated/desperate partner).
  • Wolves fans are much more interested in big trades (including the DLo dream). I think they'd be far more excited about trading Vonleh as part of something bigger rather than just for some small return back. (Thus, imo, even if the Jazz want him, nothing is likely to happen until the deadline, after the Wolves have exhausted other options.)
 
For those curious about Vonleh:

From canishoopus.com's midseason grade write-up today:

"Despite wildly inconsistent minutes and a box score production that is far from flashy, Noah Vonleh has been solid when given the chance this season. He isn’t the 3-point jacking, shot-hunting big man that made a mini-breakthrough for the New York Knicks last season, but he is the kind of player who often makes the team better when he is on the floor. Offensively, he has struggled to make much of an impact outside of the odd bully-ball post-up or putback layup. He is averaging 4.4 points per game, hitting 54.7 percent of his field goals. Although, his work defensively and on the glass has been a breath of fresh air for a team that has struggled to string together consistency in those areas. Only Gorgui Dieng and Robert Covington currently hold a higher D-PIPM (+0.47) than Vonleh and only Karl-Anthony Towns corrals more boards per 36 minutes (12) than him. He has excelled in David Vanterpool’s drop scheme pick-and-roll coverage, using his long arms and sound positioning to deter would-be scorers. Overall, he has been a good find. But, without consistent minutes, Vonleh fails to reach a higher mark."

Also, in trying to gauge what the media/fan buzz around Vonleh is with the Wolves, including his name in possible trades, I can report the following:
  • Very little buzz one way or the other. Fans seem to neither love nor hate him, nor care too much whether he plays or doesn't.
  • Most generally regard him as competent, but certainly not a ceiling-raiser.
  • A few think he's not good enough to be an NBA player.
  • He received a bit of flack recently after apparently being destroyed by Sabonis.
  • A few have mentioned trading him as a possible way to gain an asset. But there's very little sense that the Wolves are or ought to be aggressively looking to find something for him. (My interpretation: Jazz would be in a position of weakness in the trade negotiation, if they are interested, as likely the more motivated/desperate partner).
  • Wolves fans are much more interested in big trades (including the DLo dream). I think they'd be far more excited about trading Vonleh as part of something bigger rather than just for some small return back. (Thus, imo, even if the Jazz want him, nothing is likely to happen until the deadline, after the Wolves have exhausted other options.)
I’m all in, but Vonleh is in no way having an impact on any big trade for them. Hope our FO likes him.
 
Probably not be assigned to the guy who would hit the game winner.
Exactly. He wouldn’t have that assignment here, either. And the Kings may not be a great team, but he’s asked to take the assignment of one of their biggest threats to close it out. Would they give Niang that job if he were on Sacramento?
 
For those curious about Vonleh:

From canishoopus.com's midseason grade write-up today:

"Despite wildly inconsistent minutes and a box score production that is far from flashy, Noah Vonleh has been solid when given the chance this season. He isn’t the 3-point jacking, shot-hunting big man that made a mini-breakthrough for the New York Knicks last season, but he is the kind of player who often makes the team better when he is on the floor. Offensively, he has struggled to make much of an impact outside of the odd bully-ball post-up or putback layup. He is averaging 4.4 points per game, hitting 54.7 percent of his field goals. Although, his work defensively and on the glass has been a breath of fresh air for a team that has struggled to string together consistency in those areas. Only Gorgui Dieng and Robert Covington currently hold a higher D-PIPM (+0.47) than Vonleh and only Karl-Anthony Towns corrals more boards per 36 minutes (12) than him. He has excelled in David Vanterpool’s drop scheme pick-and-roll coverage, using his long arms and sound positioning to deter would-be scorers. Overall, he has been a good find. But, without consistent minutes, Vonleh fails to reach a higher mark."

Also, in trying to gauge what the media/fan buzz around Vonleh is with the Wolves, including his name in possible trades, I can report the following:
  • Very little buzz one way or the other. Fans seem to neither love nor hate him, nor care too much whether he plays or doesn't.
  • Most generally regard him as competent, but certainly not a ceiling-raiser.
  • A few think he's not good enough to be an NBA player.
  • He received a bit of flack recently after apparently being destroyed by Sabonis.
  • A few have mentioned trading him as a possible way to gain an asset. But there's very little sense that the Wolves are or ought to be aggressively looking to find something for him. (My interpretation: Jazz would be in a position of weakness in the trade negotiation, if they are interested, as likely the more motivated/desperate partner).
  • Wolves fans are much more interested in big trades (including the DLo dream). I think they'd be far more excited about trading Vonleh as part of something bigger rather than just for some small return back. (Thus, imo, even if the Jazz want him, nothing is likely to happen until the deadline, after the Wolves have exhausted other options.)

Sounds like a good fit. I just question whether or not he's a good enough shooter to be a 5 out option. I'm convinced that is what the Jazz are going to look for.
 
Exactly. He wouldn’t have that assignment here, either. And the Kings may not be a great team, but he’s asked to take the assignment of one of their biggest threats to close it out. Would they give Niang that job if he were on Sacramento?
I would like to think they wouldn't give that job to Niang but they shouldn't have given it to Ariza either. He is washed. If he isn't giving you his Houston defense which he isn't and all his offensive production is sitting in a corner and shooting %35, you don't play him over Niang.
 
Sounds like a good fit. I just question whether or not he's a good enough shooter to be a 5 out option. I'm convinced that is what the Jazz are going to look for.
Miles better than Favors, Davis, or Bradley. Someone would have to look and see what he shoots on open catch and shoot.
 
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