2020 NBA trade deadline discussion

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Maker can switch and guard 1-5 and has some moments in playoffs. Lacks consistency but would definitely be useful to have comes playoffs. An expiring anyways. Can't be worse than Ed

Maker isn't a 5. He's a 4 or even a 3.

 

[jom2003]

Maker sucks... just want to put that out there... I think TB is legit better.

Just see for yourself... The way he guarded a very good Celtics team from Rozier to Tatum to horford. I doubt TB will ever match that. Maker's ceiling is as high as any elite defender when properly used. He just lacks the mentality and effort to stay consistent.

 

[jom2003]

Maker isn't a 5. He's a 4 or even a 3.

He can guard 1-5, but he doesn't provide much value outside of switchability.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think this is pretty simple. I think the Jazz's main realistic play is for Aron Baynes. Once that gets answered, they'll move on other things like a long, defensive forward or wing.

Oh, and let me just say -- I'm out on John Henson.

 

[infection]

Agree with you on KOC in his late years. Couldnt stand him. Just one mistake after another. Was begging for him to step down. But Derek Fisher was actually a pretty good signing, and a better “vet signing” than any vets that DL had signed except for maybe iso-joe. But I'm still waiting on DL to match KOC’s booz/okur signing. Bogie came close, but he’s already 31 and unlikely to outperform his contract the same way Booz and Okur did

Derek Fish was a good acquisition even though he didn't play well for us. But my point with that was that a lot of people thought it was a bad move (especially in hindsight). But in any case we had traded for him.

Now regarding Boozer and Okur. The year we signed them, the salary cap was $43,870,000. We signed Boozer for 25% of the cap and Okur 17%. This year Bojan is signed for 16% of the cap. In his first year with us, he's averaging more points than either Boozer or Okur scored at any point in their stints with us.

 

[framer]

Jazz know who they want. They're just waiting for the market to shake out. Their shortlist for bigs probably includes Baynes, Poeltl, Holmes, maybe Wood...

They'll inquire about guys like Aaron Gordon, Bobby Portis, Iguodala and such as part of their due diligence.

They could probably pick up GRIII or maybe Saric pretty easily, imo. Another sleeper might be Kurucs in Brooklyn.

Is Saric even any good? Just seems like a dime a dozen guy we could pick up of our ever growing scrap heap.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Golden State can package Russell with a lottery pick for a disgruntled All Star. I think that's their plan.

I mean that's the idea but who? There is a clock on that sort of thing too... once the Warriors need him to play winning basketball his value dips... he's had injuries over the years... also that lotto pick loses a ton of value the second you drive it off the lot.

So which star is going to be disgruntled in the next 6 months? Also, remember they made a mockery of the league for a couple years and were arrogant assholes about it... teams aren't going to rush to help them. He's a better passing Zach LaVine which is fine when you are winning 25 games... when you need to put him in a winning situation and his defense causes issues and you are replacing efficient scoring with his less efficient scoring, then his value will drop.

They may end up getting more, but the Wolves should squeeze them a bit.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Is Saric even any good? Just seems like a dime a dozen guy we could pick up of our ever growing scrap heap.

I always liked him, but he has been really pedestrian last couple years... He's a guy I think Quin could really help and could work well in our system. He could be a buy low candidate now or in the offseason.

 

[framer]

Just see for yourself... The way he guarded a very good Celtics team from Rozier to Tatum to horford. I doubt TB will ever match that. Maker's ceiling is as high as any elite defender when properly used. He just lacks the mentality and effort to stay consistent.

I'm old enough to remember when this was Greg Ostertag after that Houston series. . .

 

[NAOS]

Derek Fish was a good acquisition even though he didn't play well for us. But my point with that was that a lot of people thought it was a bad move (especially in hindsight). But in any case we had traded for him.

Now regarding Boozer and Okur. The year we signed them, the salary cap was $43,870,000. We signed Boozer for 25% of the cap and Okur 17%. This year Bojan is signed for 16% of the cap. In his first year with us, he's averaging more points than either Boozer or Okur scored at any point in their stints with us.

You’re really wasting a ton of time right now

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just see for yourself... The way he guarded a very good Celtics team from Rozier to Tatum to horford. I doubt TB will ever match that. Maker's ceiling is as high as any elite defender when properly used. He just lacks the mentality and effort to stay consistent.

See for yourself... His numbers are ***... I don't care that he had one good game... Also, his team is better defensively when he is off the court...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/makerth01.html

Please don't acquire a guy that is supposed to be a good defender but struggles with effort...

 

[infection]

You’re really wasting a ton of time right now

I know. Sometimes the obvious has to be said. I usually give it a crack for one or two posts, but then come to my senses.