2020 Presidential election

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gandalfe, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Great post

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  2. The Thriller

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    Let’s not discover a vaccine for polio because all the other polio victims will be jealous and bitter over it.

    derp
     
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  3. One Brow

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    No worries. I know I'm enough of a jackass that my house is more plastic wrap than glass. At the end of the day, the Jazz rock!
     
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  5. White Chocolate

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    Great analogy. I didn’t know people signed up to get polio to better themselves.
     
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  6. The Thriller

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    it’s as asinine as refusing to improve our society via public education because a handful of people might get their feelings hurt.
     
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  7. White Chocolate

    White Chocolate Respect All, Fear None Contributor

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    I simply asked a question. I said I like the general idea of it. Reading comprehension and analogies are not your strong suit.
     
  8. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Kind of a dumb question though. I'm not trying to attack you or be mean, just stating my opinion. I think you might have known it was a dumb question when you asked it.
    I do the same thing sometimes too

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  9. The Thriller

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    It was a dumb question. I gave you a snarky response. I figured you were merely being dumb. Were you trying to be serious? I wouldn’t be that surprised, many who are against tuition free education often pose that same stupid analogy. @JazzGal had a good response to it. She correctly refuted it. Did you have an issue with her refutation?

    here’s a question, Why shouldn’t we have tuition free college if we can significantly help our society by not piling loads of debt on our young while promoting a better educated populace?
     
  10. gandalfe

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    We already have free schooling in this country. Basically, on a line of education, everything to the left of the line is free:
    -----FREE----|----PAY------
    The proposal is to move the line:
    -----FREE--------|---PAY---
     
  11. The Thriller

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    Has our K-12 public education existed ever since we declared independence since 1776?
     
  12. gandalfe

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    Why, no, it has not. It looks at first glance as though there were schools, generally what we would consider elementary schools, from the 1600s, although they were not free. The first public high school was opened in Boston in 1821. By the end of the 19th century, public secondary schools outnumbered private ones.

    So, yes, the line has been moving steadily to the right for the entire history of our country.
     
  13. The Thriller

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    Okay. So if systems change to meet the needs of society, why shouldn’t our current system change to meet the needs of the 21st century?
     
  14. gandalfe

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    That's my point. Only explained with a bad graphic. :)
     
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  16. yamers

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    Elizabeth warren out here straight up lying...

    Kind of was warming up to the idea of a potential battle of warren vs trump, but shes full of **** it seems. Calls bernie a sexist on stage and years back she claims shes native american to get into Harvard.

     
  17. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Claiming to be Native American DID NOT help her get HIRED at Harvard.

    She worked at Harvard and put Native American on that form you fill out AFTER you are hired.

    And what Bernie said in 1988 does not mean that last year he didn't say something else in regard to who could beat Donald Trump in 2020.
     
  18. yamers

    yamers Well-Known Member

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    here comes dr. TRIGGER LORD. "I AM NO LONGER A GOBERT FAN" himself.
     
  19. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    ok
     
  20. yamers

    yamers Well-Known Member

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    so she listed her self as a native american professor? despite the fact that Native Americans clearly dont recognize her status.
     

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