2020 Presidential election

Jonah

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I have seen Trumpers defending trump taking that cognition test by saying that it was a presidential aptitude test and every president has to take it.

That's bull crap right?

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Definitely not an aptitude test. It was a very simple one-page cognitive test (the Montreal Cognitive Assessment) Trump took back in 2018. The purpose of the test is to detect early signs of dementia or cognitive impairment. No president is required to take any cognitive test, much less any aptitude test. Trump’s results from an actual general aptitude test would be informative and likely hilarious since he is functionally illiterate. Easily the least knowledgeable and informed president in American history. Shows little intellectual curiosity, has no sense of logic, either deductive or inductive, and lacks even basic quantitative reasoning skills.
 

babe

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Definitely not an aptitude test. It was a very simple one-page cognitive test (the Montreal Cognitive Assessment) Trump took back in 2018. The purpose of the test is to detect early signs of dementia or cognitive impairment. No president is required to take any cognitive test, much less any aptitude test. Trump’s results from an actual general aptitude test would be informative and likely hilarious since he is functionally illiterate. Easily the least knowledgeable and informed president in American history. Shows little intellectual curiosity, has no sense of logic, either deductive or inductive, and lacks even basic quantitative reasoning skills.


What a load.

You ready for another chess match?

When I was 25, when recovering my a neurological illness thought then to be multiple sclerosis, I was about as functional as Biden is today. I had trouble navigating a grocery checkout and keeping track of what was happening.

I was unable to work, but I got myself up outta bed, got my car and drove the Eccles Library at the UofU Meciical Center, and spent the day reading all I could find in the medical journals that related to my health. I developed exercises to deliberately check my memory, which I still do today. I made it an objective to scan my surroundings and my perception looking for missed stuff.

Biden doesn't do any of that. Never did. He's always been a "skater", a weather-vane reflexive politician who doesn't even care what is true. Lying is not second nature to him. It's all he knows.

I've known quite a few people like that. Very sociable, very likeable. They are always reading stuff into you and trying to say what you want to hear.

Biden is the perfect fit for the job of being an unthinking, unquestioning Party Man, the most manipulatable President in US History.

The good thing about that, in the view of real power brokers, is that it is reflexive, and needs little pushing.

Trump is nobody's man, and the Press mistakes that for being every conceivable evil for the agenda.

The way you make it out suggests to me that either you just believe the Press, or you actually are committed yourself to the "Establishment" Program. Would make sense if you are, say, an executive for Rio Tinto, or have vested interests in business which are benefited by reducing competitive opportunities or are inherently benefited by your social milieu.

I am just the old has-been who for all of my life has been a non-joiner to the crusade, though friends and relatives have been very involved. I just don't believe in it.

Trump is possibly the victim of his chosen advisors to some extent, and obviously also the dupe of some of his Establishment men he's included in his circle, who have played him pretty badly.

But his mental acuity is still pretty good. You mistake his decisions for being uniformed or illogical when it's just different values, different information, and rhetorical pandering to his base.

He is not a politician, and his inexperience in politics is more to the point of his weaknesses.
 

babe

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Look at the name on this tweet. Looks like a lib trying to promote the fiction of present Nazi racism to me. I mean, have you ever heard of such a name before, and what would be in the head of someone making up a name like that, who is obvious far left in political biases.
 

babe

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Looked like the quote I was referring to was not showing in my comment above.

The tweeter was last name "Nazaryan", it was commenting negatively on the White House clip.

The political fact today is that there are more paid "fake Nazis" in America than real believers in that racist Aryan supremacy idea. Like I think there are many more fake terrorists out and about in this country than real ones, because we have active units out trolling to bring in the rubes who are just that way. If you ever run into anyone interested in making a bomb, or who knows the chemistry, it's 95% he's FBI running sting.

The Press is running up the rhetoric to make the agenda work, but there's so little anyone will do politically in the line of riots or terror or hate, it just has to be bought by some moneybag schemer like Soros.
 

babe

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Looked like the quote I was referring to was not showing in my comment above.

The tweeter was last name "Nazaryan", it was commenting negatively on the White House clip.

The political fact today is that there are more paid "fake Nazis" in America than real believers in that racist Aryan supremacy idea. Like I think there are many more fake terrorists out and about in this country than real ones, because we have active units out trolling to bring in the rubes who are just that way. If you ever run into anyone interested in making a bomb, or who knows the chemistry, it's 95% he's FBI running sting.

The Press is running up the rhetoric to make the agenda work, but there's so little anyone will do politically in the line of riots or terror or hate, it just has to be bought by some moneybag schemer like Soros.
I've been following James O'Keefe as much as I can. What he is doing is documenting on camera, from internal sources concerned about what they are seeing, the political activities of agenda-committed ideologues working within various organizations, even the Democratic Party. What he is jpublishing is researched and objective, and it takes a committed agenda wonk to even think of how to deny it.
 

One Brow

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Look at the name on this tweet. Looks like a lib trying to promote the fiction of present Nazi racism to me. I mean, have you ever heard of such a name before, and what would be in the head of someone making up a name like that, who is obvious far left in political biases.
O'Keefe is the head of Project Veritas.


Don't worry, I'm sure you can find some source that says he's secretly in the pay of the Rothcchild family to appear to undermine the Democratic party so they can take more power by rescuing it from the trouble they caused, or something.
 

One Brow

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What he is jpublishing is researched and objective, and it takes a committed agenda wonk to even think of how to deny it.
:rolleyes:
Well, until he published the full videos, instead of the redacted versions, which usually show his claims of malfeasance are groundless.
 

JazzGal

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Say what you want about AOC but this is a serious mike drop...

My neighbor called my 82-year-old mother this recently. She is somewhat deaf and didn't hear this, just some of his lesser ones. I wasn't brave enough to call him out on it, just got us both away from him as fast as possible.

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babe

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O'Keefe is the head of Project Veritas.


Don't worry, I'm sure you can find some source that says he's secretly in the pay of the Rothcchild family to appear to undermine the Democratic party so they can take more power by rescuing it from the trouble they caused, or something.
It's a bit confusing, and I was confused myself, but the name I saw was in the tweets associated with this posting of the video clip on some tweet account. The name, as I corrected in the next post, was "Nazaryan", clearly a fusion of Nazi and Aryan, the hallmarks of Hitler's version of Fascism and the Third Reich. Hitler's press pushed out about as much crap about the superiority of whites (Aryan Race) over less industrious darker "races ' around the world----Japanese perhaps excepted. but clearly equally racist in their own views over Korean or Chinese or Filipino or Malay....... but I digress. "Nazaryan" was a tweeter on somebody's twitter account linked to that videa. He was clearly a liberal shown by his attitude in his comment, therefore I thought he was a "Fake" Nazi, even though Hitler's fans were socialists, statists, colonialist, and cartelist in many respects just as Dems are today. About the only term in that list imagine you could call inaccurate is the "colonialist" bit, and I support that with the facts of UN organization and influencers, who pretend to be something other than a determined force for merchants and industrialists enabling the exploitation of cheap labor and raw materials to support fantastic profits in international commerce.

The best example of a current regime with such deplorable racist views today is China. Xi Jin Peng has made many overtly racist claims. I myself have encountered Han racist pride in my interactions with Chinese nationals. Xi is of the genre of genetic supremacists where the value of a human life is scaled to descent from "pure Chinese", meaning Han ethnicity.

The reason I've been dinging you for lack of objectivity is because Biden and the Democratic Party today, indeed a lot of the UN "club" are today speaking in overtly racist rhetoric, some of it a form of racism that denigrates whites. Can I say that??? People are making overt claims that whites are genetically or inherently evil because of past societal attitudes of some, and not even bothering to be precise or careful about when and who and where those attitudes prevailed. It's ignorance run amok.

I have to credit you for your dedication and persistence, your sincere beliefs and hard work, but I must try to open your eyes to what your commitment runs to.
 

babe

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My neighbor called my 82-year-old mother this recently. She is somewhat deaf and didn't hear this, just some of his lesser ones. I wasn't brave enough to call him out on it, just got us both away from him as fast as possible.

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So here is Rep Yoho in reality:


Yes it's his own little page. He's not running for re-election. His views on China, Hong Kong and Korea are definitely credible. He did a little bit about John Lewis's passing, with pretty sincere-sounding praise.

If he said what she said he said, it was pretty stupid. I wonder what the context was, what could have upset him so much as to talk that way. Is there anything like a recording of any of their interactions anywhere????

(Edit)

Rep Yoho stood up with his mike on to address the House, though it looked pretty empty on the video I found in Rolling Stone. Without stammering or weakening his demeanor at all, he apologized for his "abrupt manner" saying that while he and AOC differ on views there is no justification for being disrespectful. He then declared without equivocation that he did not say what she said he said. He said those words were not used. He attributed it as a misunderstanding and said he apologized for being misunderstood.

The Press has run with this pretty hard.

He is not running for re-election.
 
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Jonah

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What a load.

You ready for another chess match?

When I was 25, when recovering my a neurological illness thought then to be multiple sclerosis, I was about as functional as Biden is today. I had trouble navigating a grocery checkout and keeping track of what was happening.

I was unable to work, but I got myself up outta bed, got my car and drove the Eccles Library at the UofU Meciical Center, and spent the day reading all I could find in the medical journals that related to my health. I developed exercises to deliberately check my memory, which I still do today. I made it an objective to scan my surroundings and my perception looking for missed stuff.

Biden doesn't do any of that. Never did. He's always been a "skater", a weather-vane reflexive politician who doesn't even care what is true. Lying is not second nature to him. It's all he knows.

I've known quite a few people like that. Very sociable, very likeable. They are always reading stuff into you and trying to say what you want to hear.

Biden is the perfect fit for the job of being an unthinking, unquestioning Party Man, the most manipulatable President in US History.

The good thing about that, in the view of real power brokers, is that it is reflexive, and needs little pushing.

Trump is nobody's man, and the Press mistakes that for being every conceivable evil for the agenda.

The way you make it out suggests to me that either you just believe the Press, or you actually are committed yourself to the "Establishment" Program. Would make sense if you are, say, an executive for Rio Tinto, or have vested interests in business which are benefited by reducing competitive opportunities or are inherently benefited by your social milieu.

I am just the old has-been who for all of my life has been a non-joiner to the crusade, though friends and relatives have been very involved. I just don't believe in it.

Trump is possibly the victim of his chosen advisors to some extent, and obviously also the dupe of some of his Establishment men he's included in his circle, who have played him pretty badly.

But his mental acuity is still pretty good. You mistake his decisions for being uniformed or illogical when it's just different values, different information, and rhetorical pandering to his base.

He is not a politician, and his inexperience in politics is more to the point of his weaknesses.
I agree Biden is well past his prime, but unlike Trump, at least he has had a prime from which to recede. I will also agree Biden skates to where the majority of Democrats reside at any particular time. Right now that’s to the left of Clinton and Obama. But since I’m not an ideologue that's not my most pressing concern when I decide for whom to vote. What I’ll settle for right now is a grown-up as president. Trump is a spoiled and petulant man-child. He has never developed emotionally or intellectually into a grown adult with mature thoughts and feelings. His behaviors are still those of a little boy, grade-school level: impulsive, grandiose, self-centered, and unable to take responsibility for himself.
 

Avery

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For those supporting Trump, what is your plan to maximize these last 100 days to help win the vote? What is your confidence level that he will win in November?
 

babe

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So, sitting here bored, I've looked around for the news on the incident Yoho--AOC and Williams. So far there is no one claiming to have overheard those remarks, on the steps of the House. Yoho's staff denies those words or anything like them were spoken. But they did shameless put in plug for Congressmen's commitment to his voters, by admitting that under his breath, as he walked away, he said her views were "********". The discussion was about AOC defense of defunding the police and how the poor only shoplift to get bread for their starving kids. I don't think that will cost him any votes. Even the homeless druggies under the overpass in Stockton's I-5/CA 4 overpass know they shoplift for "meds", and nobody really has any kids to feed in that peer group., because they're all in foster care.
 
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