2020 Presidential election


fishonjazz

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I don't think that's the case at all. I believe that Biden and his deteriorating mental health condition is actually an advantage. Why? Because I think people can sympathize and feel sorry for him. And when Trump acts mean towards him, it might turn off potential Trump voters.
I think you are way way off here
People voting for Biden arent doing it because they feel sorry for him. They are voting for Biden because A. They think he is a great candidate (not very many are voting for him for this reason imo). B. They are democrats and always vote for the Democrat (probably most of Bidens votes come from this group) or C. They are sick of trump and want him gone (a large number of votes for Biden will be for this reason)

I have talked to a number of people voting for Biden in real life to their faces and on social media and I have literally never heard anyone say they are voting for Biden out of pity. In fact your post is the first time I have even heard the theory uttered. I think you are losing it.

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magic

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I think you are way way off here
People voting for Biden arent doing it because they feel sorry for him. They are voting for Biden because A. They think he is a great candidate (not very many are voting for him for this reason imo). B. They are democrats and always vote for the Democrat (probably most of Bidens votes come from this group) or C. They are sick of trump and want him gone (a large number of votes for Biden will be for this reason)

I have talked to a number of people voting for Biden in real life to their faces and on social media and I have literally never heard anyone say they are voting for Biden out of pity. In fact your post is the first time I have even heard the theory uttered. I think you are losing it.

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Your small sample size of talking to people in real life has no more credibility than my theory. It's not unreasonable to think that undecided voters in swing states might be turned off by Trump being an ******* towards Biden causing them to either:
A. Not vote at all or vote 3rd party
B. Vote for Biden

I don't think your category A would have played much of a factor in this election (even if the candidate was considered "great" by the Democrats). I think how each party as a whole approaches topics such as the pandemic, social justice issues, and media censorship plays the greatest role. Once this is accounted for, the impact of having a great candidate is negligible.
 

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Your small sample size of talking to people in real life has no more credibility than my theory. It's not unreasonable to think that undecided voters in swing states might be turned off by Trump being an ******* towards Biden causing them to either:
A. Not vote at all or vote 3rd party
B. Vote for Biden

I don't think your category A would have played much of a factor in this election (even if the candidate was considered "great" by the Democrats). I think how each party as a whole approaches topics such as the pandemic, social justice issues, and media censorship plays the greatest role. Once this is accounted for, the impact of having a great candidate is negligible.
I can agree with this post. Sure undecideds might vote for Biden because trump is a dick. That's why I'm voting for Biden. That's not the same as voting for Biden because I feel bad for Biden though like your theory had said.

Why would anyone who doesn't like Biden care if his feelings get hurt by trump. Nobody who doesn't like Biden would vote for him cause they feel sorry him. Voting for Biden because trump is acting like a dick to Biden is different than voting for Biden cause you feel sorry for him.

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Your small sample size of talking to people in real life
Btw my sample size I presented to you was much bigger than this.
It was also all social media, television, news etc. That's tens of thousands of people.
Never even heard of anyone voting for Biden cause they feel sorry for him. Never even heard the theory before.

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Btw my sample size I presented to you was much bigger than this.
It was also all social media, television, news etc. That's tens of thousands of people.
Never even heard of anyone voting for Biden cause they feel sorry for him. Never even heard the theory before.

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Tens of thousands of people is a stretch admittedly.

But I would say my sample is likely in the thousands anyway

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Hell, I wouldn't even say I'm voting for sleepy joe. I'm basically voting against trump.
More American idol style. Instead of voting for the one I like I'm voting against the one that I think sucks the most

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I don't think any of this actually matters in this election. So many votes have already been made and the ones that haven't all know who they are voting for.
I do think it matters that it is happening at all though and it should be stopped if possible just because it's the right thing to do for our future elections

For this election though? Everybody's mind is made up imo.

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magic

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I can agree with this post. Sure undecideds might vote for Biden because trump is a dick. That's why I'm voting for Biden. That's not the same as voting for Biden because I feel bad for Biden though like your theory had said.

Why would anyone who doesn't like Biden care if his feelings get hurt by trump. Nobody who doesn't like Biden would vote for him cause they feel sorry him. Voting for Biden because trump is acting like a dick to Biden is different than voting for Biden cause you feel sorry for him.

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Ok, I can see how my words are confusing now. The first part "sympathize and feel sorry for him" is a condition that must be met in order for Trump acting like ******* toward's Biden to have an effect. But to make that clear, I should have switched the order of my statements. That is:

When Trump acts like an ******* towards Biden, people can sympathize and feel sorry for him.

Unlike in the case with Hilary, where a lot of people did not sympathize with her.
 

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I don't think any of this actually matters in this election. So many votes have already been made and the ones that haven't all know who they are voting for.
I do think it matters that it is happening at all though and it should be stopped if possible just because it's the right thing to do for our future elections

For this election though? Everybody's mind is made up imo.

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Very good post
 

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Ok, I can see how my words are confusing now. The first part "sympathize and feel sorry for him" is a condition that must be met in order for Trump acting like ******* toward's Biden to have an effect. But to make that clear, I should have switched the order of my statements. That is:

When Trump acts like an ******* towards Biden, people can sympathize and feel sorry for him.

Unlike in the case with Hilary, where a lot of people did not sympathize with her.
I still don't think anyone is voting for Biden out of sympathy alone. Sure people might sympathize with him but that isn't the reason for their voting.

Also, I think even if Biden was unlikeable and no one sympathized with him there would still be many people voting for him simply cause they think trump is a dick and want to vote "against" trump. Like myself

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magic

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I still don't think anyone is voting for Biden out of sympathy alone. Sure people might sympathize with him but that isn't the reason for their voting.

Also, I think even if Biden was unlikeable and no one sympathized with him there would still be many people voting for him simply cause they think trump is a dick and want to vote "against" trump. Like myself

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Well then circling back to your original question about how you think a different, more Obama-like candidate would make a difference, we agree to disagree.

The people who are not voting for Trump simply because they think he is a dick is a separate group. That group votes that way regardless of who the candidate is. But the hypothetical question was about group of voters who would vote differently based on the actual person running.

Thus, to answer that question, I think Trump's rude behavior towards a candidate whose mental health is deteriorating will cause some people not to vote for Trump that otherwise might have. Those same voters would not be turned off if Trump was rude to an Obama-like candidate or an unlikeable candidate. That is my opinion.
 

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Well then circling back to your original question about how you think a different, more Obama-like candidate would make a difference, we agree to disagree.
Well I mean look no further than this thread.
Tfivas voted for trump. He didn't want to though. It was just that Biden had nothing to offer.
Give him a good candidate with something to offer and he doesn't vote trump, he votes for the good candidate. There are many voters out there like tfivas. My father is another one.

Kind of common sense that a good candidate with something to offer would garner more votes than a poor candidate with nothing to offer isn't it? Or is that crazy talk and I'm living in the upside down where Americans prefer to vote for a poor candidate with nothing to offer over a good candidate with something to offer?



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LOL ... Did he denounce Proud Boys during the debate? No, he told them to Stand By. They are a right-wing white supremacist militia. Then the next he says he denounces White Supremacists. What did he say about the white supremacists in Charlotteville? There are good people on both side, despite the fact that one of the white supremacists drove a car into the protesters, killing one of them. WTF is wrong with you. You're not dense, you're ****ing mentally ill!

LOL ... I'm not too smart. Well, coming from an idiot like you that is a compliment.
I don’t know much about US politics but I’ve seen a clip where he clearly says of that incident “not the white supremacists who should be condemned” but other than them there were good people in both sides. Is that the one you mean ?

anyway when does this **** show of an election between two silly old bastards finish ??
 
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