NAOS
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Any steps toward muting noise from Parties is good, imo.
2020 Presidential election
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Avery
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Yeah, four days of hearing speech after cheerleading speech must be draining. Delegate roll calls are just an exercise for pomp and circumstance.
Just another bloated exercise in politics. It's too bad being a democrat means you're a whiny liberal ninny and a republican means you're a racist, backwoods bigot. There's a whole lot of area in between where most of us live.
NAOS
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At one point, there was some public discussion about what would happen if news outlets stopped identifying elected officials by putting an (R) or a (D) next to their name when they appeared on camera. Such a thing would obviously prevent the viewer from making an immediate assumption about the perspective they were about to hear.
I’m all ears when it comes to these kinds of experiments.
Red
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The spineless sycophants — who attacked Never Trumpers for their show of integrity, who fashioned disingenuous excuses for Trump and who concoct elaborate rationalizations to oppose voting for former vice president Joe Biden (Socialist!) — will swear up and down that Hillary Clinton would have been worse. (Really — denying a pandemic? Inducing supporters not to wear lifesaving masks? Embracing white nationalists? Staffing the White House with a cohort of incompetents? Giving Vladimir Putin a free pass on targeting U.S. troops?) Some will insist they were against Trump all along. Some (a tiny few) will show some modicum of remorse, and some will try to ignore the past four years of intellectual hackery. What “polite society” (if there is such a thing) must not do is forget their role in sustaining an un-American president whose incompetency has resulted in more than 100,000 unnecessary deaths.
The bill is coming due for those who sold their souls to Trump. The voters may boot out a good number of incumbents. The rest of us, however, will have learned how through silence and collaboration a cadre of well-educated comfortable men and women can rationalize and excuse anything. It has been a frightening lesson in human weakness and propensity to accommodate themselves to evil, which should remind us the only thing that really matters in public life is character.
The bill is coming due for those who sold their souls to Trump. The voters may boot out a good number of incumbents. The rest of us, however, will have learned how through silence and collaboration a cadre of well-educated comfortable men and women can rationalize and excuse anything. It has been a frightening lesson in human weakness and propensity to accommodate themselves to evil, which should remind us the only thing that really matters in public life is character.
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Peter Navarro writes a hit against Fauci which we all know trump authorized.
The hit job is published by USA Today
The WH pretends that they didn’t know about it.
The disinformation spreads.
A day later the media admits that the piece shouldn’t have run.
The “liberal” MSM lol... we do not have a liberal MSM in America.
The hit job is published by USA Today
The WH pretends that they didn’t know about it.
The disinformation spreads.
A day later the media admits that the piece shouldn’t have run.
The “liberal” MSM lol... we do not have a liberal MSM in America.
Ford was credible but lacked proof
kavanaugh’s accusers besides Ford lacked credibility. Ford was credible but lacked proof. No one knows what happened in that room.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Kavanaugh was treated unfairly
his meltdown was embarrassing
Biden’s accuser also lacks credibility. Her story is full of holes. BS just like many of Kavanaugh’s accusers.
We need to listen seriously to women’s accusations.
We should not blindly believe them
“me too” many good points but some take it to extremes and undermine the movement.
I don’t have a side. Side with the truth, not a party.
kavanaugh’s accusers besides Ford lacked credibility. Ford was credible but lacked proof. No one knows what happened in that room.
Innocent until proven guilty.
Kavanaugh was treated unfairly
his meltdown was embarrassing
Biden’s accuser also lacks credibility. Her story is full of holes. BS just like many of Kavanaugh’s accusers.
We need to listen seriously to women’s accusations.
We should not blindly believe them
“me too” many good points but some take it to extremes and undermine the movement.
I don’t have a side. Side with the truth, not a party.
I don’t find this odd at all. It was thoroughly investigated in the press. NPR has a great piece on it and intervened many people. There is just nothing there so they dropped it. If there were substance, it would be the lead on fox and Breitbart every day.
Beer
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It is not unreasonable at all for both Kavanaugh and Ford to both be completely honest. Something that happened 30 years ago is hard enough to remember and even something that happened 10 min ago is open to 2 very different interpretations. I assume the same with Biden though I don't know as much about it.
The difference is Reade made a formal complaint. If a formal complaint was made about me contemporaneously, I'd never forget it, or who accused me, whether true or not. Biden claims he doesn't know/remember her. Releasing the complaint would go a long way.
Avery
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NAOS
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Two sincere questions:
1. a long way toward what?
2. what specific use value do you anticipate this information will have as of Thursday, July 16th?