2020 Presidential election

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gandalfe, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Taking all the big ideologies, capitalism, communism, socialism...and applying them all in nuanced ways to create a whole often leads to better over all policies than going whole hog on one ideology.
     
  2. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    If your first two paragraphs were true why must we substantially raise taxes? Particularly the rich who will be paying 50+%?
     
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  3. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    I can't argue with that.
     
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  4. Zombie

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    The answer to the first question is obvious if you take a couple seconds to think about it.

    As for the second, it's not necessarily the case that the richest among us must have their taxes increased substantially more than the rest of us to pay for this program. That is probably borne out of Sanders belief that our current tax system isn't progressive enough. But that's a separate issue.
     
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  5. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Naos knows how to spell moron but he was intentional spelling it as moran for added meaning.

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  6. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Just to be a prick.
     
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  7. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    You seem to just automatically assume the worst possible case scenario whenever anything other the status quo is presented.

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  8. The Thriller

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    Btw, for those interested:

    https://www.statnews.com/2019/03/22/affordable-care-act-controls-costs/

    And:

    The 4 main types of health care models.

    Essentially:

    1: Germany, Japan, and France have a free market system where insurance is still the primary provider, but they’re nonprofit and heavily regulated.

    2: UK runs its health care system like public schools. Hospitals and doctors are public facilities and employees.

    3: Canada maintains private hospitals and doctors, but they’re reimbursed by one health care plan, Medicare.

    All systems have an optional add on insurance for gyms, vision, cosmetic surgery, anything extra that isn’t covered by the primary system.

    4: Our dysfunctional system, which basically combines all 3 above, plus for profit insurance, and is impossible to regulate or keep costs down. It’s the worst delivery system in the world. But it does make big Pharm, insurance companies, and a handful of doctors filthy rich. They then use their wealth as “free speech” to kill any kind of health care reform in congress.

    http://www.pnhp.org/single_payer_resources/health_care_systems_four_basic_models.php
     
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  9. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Ok chicken little.

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  10. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Let the big boys talk please.
     
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  11. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Moran is a running joke on jazzfanz. It's been around for many years.


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  12. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    All I heard from you was crying and wetting your panties from fear of change.

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  13. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    If you're going to continue to be a childish ******* please just ignore me or leave me alone. I've been nothing but nice to you.

    Thanks
     
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  14. Zombie

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    And not just here, that's a very longstanding internet meme.
     
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  15. Zombie

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    Have you though? Your pretend high roading in every conversation around here is growing old.
     
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  16. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Just calling it how I see it. You always assume the worst about everything. The sky is always falling.
    Lighten up.

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  17. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Meh, nvmd. You're not worth a thought in my mind.
     
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  18. gandalfe

    gandalfe Well-Known Member

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    We're so lucky to have the only person in the US who truly understands...
     
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  19. NPC D4617

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  20. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    It’s pretty sad when I know exactly who people are arguing with and what his lame *** arguments are even though he’s on ignore and I don’t read his posts. Lol

    It’s the same crap every single day. Spreads disinformation using lame *** right wing talking points, refuses to read anyone’s arguments, and then plays the victim (and tries to bail out of the argument) once people begin to lose patience with his stupidity. Rinse, wash, repeat.
     
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