More than trump did? Or Clinton? I severely doubt that.
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More than trump did? Or Clinton? I severely doubt that.
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What? Well that does it. Now I'm voting for Trump just to trigger you. How ya like that, snowflake?
DasJazz
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No not necessarily but it comes off differently as well, and the way she speaks is almost disingenuous and condescending and it's a big reason why I think she won't make it to the nomination.
Trump is embraced by his base and he is viewed differently when he speaks. It's more just being blunt and honest like a regular person so I think in that regard he gets away with more gaffs in public opinion, at least on the right.
I don’t see or hear that at all. I hear passion.
Also, baggage to you is a selling point to others and vice versa.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
DasJazz
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For sure. I still think Buttigieg is going to surprise some people and that Harris will be the big name front runner.
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Debated creating a new thread for this.
This might be one of the best twitter threads I’ve ever read. This is from a guy who worked in campaigns against Grand Wizard David Duke in 90 and 91. He offers advice to democrats that I find is invaluable.
What do you think?
This might be one of the best twitter threads I’ve ever read. This is from a guy who worked in campaigns against Grand Wizard David Duke in 90 and 91. He offers advice to democrats that I find is invaluable.
What do you think?
Zombie
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I think he makes a very compelling case.
Lol, one we’ve all been making. At least on its base premise. Drive up the turn out. Such as the minority vote or older voters who rarely vote.
Constant cries of “he’s racist!” Wont he enough to do that by themselves. We’ve been doing it for 2 years and you risk burn out.
Sure point it out, but turn down the regularity of it and start finding something in their own candidate to get others excited about.
Good plan
Zombie
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. His case is that we should make Trump's racism and authoritarianism the issue of the election, because it represents an existential threat to the American way of life. Not that we should talk about those issues less.
The way I see it, the candidate with the best chance is the one who will make the case for a vision of America that lives up to our ideals of a truly fair and equal society, and why they, rather than Trump, live up to those ideals.
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I agree with his base goal of animating new/infrequent voters. And I agree that flipping current trump supporters is not the way to go. Any meaningful number of people that will stop supporting him already have.
I disagree that making it “the” topic is the way to go. Yes, it needs to be there. But there has to be more. So I agree on the goal but don’t agree on the path to get there.
I could have been clearer in my previous post.
Zombie
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Fair enough. I think he has a point about normalizing him as a politician when you don't make his abnormality the central part of the campaign, given his experience running a campaign against David Duke.
I agree. It doesn’t need to just disappear. But this isn’t 1990. Social media has exploded. With so much all the time you risk burn out and people start tuning you out.
For me the best times to do it are after major policy announcements of his and during live debates against him. Make a speech about it as well. But time the hits to when they’re most impactful. Keep it there but not over whelming. And in between build up positive energy that they’re doing good by voting for you, or against him.