2020 Presidential election

[fishonjazz]

Three of "The Squad" were native born Americans, so of course telling them to "go back where they came from" makes no sense in the first place.

Further, if "The Squad" were 4 white women descended from colonial American forebears, Mayflower descendants even, would Trump have included "go back where you came from" as part of his put down of them?

By telling them to "go back", he was emphasizing their non-white status, and not their country of origin, which was the United States in the case of 3 of the 4 women. Therefore, his put down was a classic example of "otherizing" them by race.

This isn't rocket science. It's not that difficult to understand what Trump was emphasizing in that tweet. If all the women were descended from Northern Europeans, no way does he tell them to "go back".

This.
And it's obvious. I think people who are saying they don't see the racism are either trolling or they are idiots. Often times, both.

Your post explains the obvious the the idiots and trolls best though.

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[Gameface]

Three of "The Squad" were native born Americans, so of course telling them to "go back where they came from" makes no sense in the first place.

Further, if "The Squad" were 4 white women descended from colonial American forebears, Mayflower descendants even, would Trump have included "go back where you came from" as part of his put down of them?

By telling them to "go back", he was emphasizing their non-white status, and not their country of origin, which was the United States in the case of 3 of the 4 women. Therefore, his put down was a classic example of "otherizing" them by race.

This isn't rocket science. It's not that difficult to understand what Trump was emphasizing in that tweet. If all the women were descended from Northern Europeans, no way does he tell them to "go back".

The faux innocent "I don't see the racism" reminds me of the annoying younger sibling putting a finger in your face and repeating "I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you." Over and over

 

[Red]

Since this article detailing behind the scene efforts to get past Trump's "otherizing" racist tweets is in the Washington Post, it may be blocked by a paywall. But this excerpt goes to the heart of the behind the scene effort by the president's team:

"By midday Monday, the Republican battle to minimize the damage was unfolding on two fronts. The first was an effort to get Trump to shift his message, without admitting a mistake. The goal, said one senior White House aide, was to “get the message back to a place where we could defend the president.”

The idea was to argue that the four congresswomen hated America and were welcome to leave for that reason. There were other lines of attack as well. Omar had been condemned earlier in the year for comments criticizing support for Israel that many Democrats considered anti-Semitic. Pressley had seemed to suggest a racial litmus test for politics, saying Democrats don’t need “any more black faces that don’t want to be a black voice.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...42184c-aa2e-11e9-86dd-d7f0e60391e9_story.html

This pivot away from the racist component of Trump's tweets has been his, and his advisors, strategy ever since. That criticizing the 4 women for "hating" America has nothing to do with their race. It was the crux of Stephen Miller's argument presented to Chris Wallace of Fox News last Sunday. Yet, this was just an effort to overcome the obvious racist nature of the tweets. It's simply an effort to limit the obvious conclusion that Trump was stoking racial resentments with his tweets.



Trump supporters should note that the pivot chosen by the Trump team is now: "if you don't agree with the president, you are unpatriotic. You hate America". This is pretty despicable. This is straight out of a demagogue's playbook. Read James Madison's The Federalist papers to understand why he and other founding fathers feared the rise of a demagogue in America's future.

 

[Miggs]

Trump is -850 to be the R nominee. Prob free money.

 

[Gameface]

Trump is -850 to be the R nominee. Prob free money.

So basically just death or some scandal so beyond the dozens of other scandals he's been excused for by the GOP that he can't continue to run? Yeah, it's probably free money.

If the **** heal dies it won't stop me from laughing at you if you make the bet.

 

[DasJazz]

If people of color refer to themselves as people of color, how is that racist?

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Same way certain ones call each other the N word. Why can't they just be people?

 

[DasJazz]

Three of "The Squad" were native born Americans, so of course telling them to "go back where they came from" makes no sense in the first place.

Further, if "The Squad" were 4 white women descended from colonial American forebears, Mayflower descendants even, would Trump have included "go back where you came from" as part of his put down of them?

By telling them to "go back", he was emphasizing their non-white status, and not their country of origin, which was the United States in the case of 3 of the 4 women. Therefore, his put down was a classic example of "otherizing" them by race.

This isn't rocket science. It's not that difficult to understand what Trump was emphasizing in that tweet. If all the women were descended from Northern Europeans, no way does he tell them to "go back".

I just don't see it that way. He never referred to the supposed Squad by name, race, color, religion, anything. He did refer to American hating congresswomen which is pretty accurate. He then said fix the problem where you are from and then come back and ahow us how it's done.

 

[Stoked]

I just don't see it that way. He never referred to the supposed Squad by name, race, color, religion, anything. He did refer to American hating congresswomen which is pretty accurate. He then said fix the problem where you are from and then come back and ahow us how it's done.

THEY ARE FROM AMERICA. Also he was clearly referring to them. Dude, stop. Is the hill you want to die on lol?

Also “America hating” is usually nothing more then Someone’s opinion of someone else.

 

[DasJazz]

THEY ARE FROM AMERICA. Also he was clearly referring to them. Dude, stop. Is the hill you want to die on lol?

Also “America hating” is usually nothing more then Someone’s opinion of someone else.

But see I could say the same thing in that every thing the president says or does is viewed as some scandal or something like that by those who oppose him. Works both ways my friend.

 

[Gameface]

But see I could say the same thing in that every thing the president says or does is viewed as some scandal or something like that by those who oppose him. Works both ways my friend.

I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you.

You lack intellectual honesty.

You say the President doesn't name the congresswomen in question and in the same breath say that his description of them is pretty accurate. What kind of game are you trying to play?

Or have you committed yourself to these mental gymnastics to the point you actually don't see the flips and spins you've had to make in order to make your completely ******** point?

 

[DasJazz]

I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you.

You lack intellectual honesty.

You say the President doesn't name the congresswomen in question and in the same breath say that his description of them is pretty accurate. What kind of game are you trying to play?

Or have you committed yourself to these mental gymnastics to the point you actually don't see the flips and spins you've had to make in order to make your completely ******** point?

Every congresswomen that I have seen from the democratic party in the forefront of news etc. I could make a case that they are American hating politicians. It's not mental gymnastics it's simple observation.

Fact is, you don't support anything related to the president so you naturally side with the worst possible meaning outcome of his actions, true or not. You instantly go to the worst possible scenario instead of looking at what actually happened because your tendency is to be negative towards him and his policies etc.

On the flip side, I support the president so I don't instantly jump to the worst case scenario and overanalyze every little thing he says or does. Conversely, because I support the president, I am more willing to think about what he actually means given that he is not the most polished speaker like say Obama was, and I make my conclusions from there. I suppose I come from more of a benefit of the doubt mindset in regards to President Trump.

 

[Stoked]

But see I could say the same thing in that every thing the president says or does is viewed as some scandal or something like that by those who oppose him. Works both ways my friend.

No, it really doesn’t. This ignores the history of this man and the history of the things he’s said. It is not the same as any other president we have had.

He is a complete outlier, extreme outlier, in this sense.