2020 Presidential election

[Gameface]

Good interview with Bernie

I honestly didn't watch this one because the freedomtoons have been pretty garbage. But I'll be happy to see that sort of propaganda aimed mostly at Bernie and Biden, because neither will be the nominee.

 

[Jazzta]

Why is there a survey on JF asking if Trump can beat Beto O’Rourke in the 2020 elections? Is that who they’re pushing?

 

[Zombie]

This is legitimately one of the funniest tweets Trump has put together yet.

Does he really think anyone buys this incredibly frail attempt at driving a wedge between the squad?

This is like some hack reality TV writing.

 

[str8line]

This is legitimately one of the funniest tweets Trump has put together yet.

Does he really think anyone buys this incredibly frail attempt at driving a wedge between the squad?

This is like some hack reality TV writing.

Tonight, on the Bachelorette...

 

[Deleted member 365]

This sounds like a risky strategy:

 

[Zombie]

This sounds like a risky strategy:

Sounds like a strategy I've seen employed before. Around 2007, maybe?

 

[Heathme]

 

[Deleted member 365]

Sounds like a strategy I've seen employed before. Around 2007, maybe?

Nahhhh

It’s 2019 man. The stock market is too big to fail...

And when the roof caves in, President Warren will have to spend her entire first term cleaning up the mess while the GOP returns to its “Monday Morning Quarterback” role by critiquing everything she proposes.

 

[Ellipse]

Trump’s popularity among republicans and Russian bots isn’t in doubt.

But no credible pollster would base any chances of re-election on one’s number of twitter followers. Far too simplistic. Even if it were, it would still be too simplistic; the presidential election isn’t based on the popular vote.

Are there any credible pollsters? Are any polls credible?

It use to be that pollsters relied upon statistical sampling via phone interviews. 20 years ago, the sampling method included a minor error because it ignored homes without phones.

Today, I suspect the vast majority of homes do not have landlines. Of course, virtually everyone -- including children -- have cell phones. But how many adults answer calls from an unknown caller and, if they did, would respond to a political survey? It seems to me that only folks who want to give their opinion are being sampled, and that group is not representative of the voting public.

The only polling method that makes any sense to me is to return to physically knocking on doors and asking the head of the house his or her opinion. Until that happens, I won't be taking any poll seriously.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Are there any credible pollsters? Are any polls credible?

It use to be that pollsters relied upon statistical sampling via phone interviews. 20 years ago, the sampling method included a minor error because it ignored homes without phones.

Today, I suspect the vast majority of homes do not have landlines. Of course, virtually everyone -- including children -- have cell phones. But how many adults answer calls from an unknown caller and, if they did, would respond to a political survey? It seems to me that only folks who want to give their opinion are being sampled, and that group is not representative of the voting public.

The only polling method that makes any sense to me is to return to physically knocking on doors and asking the head of the house his or her opinion. Until that happens, I won't be taking any poll seriously.

Yes, There are credible pollsters. Methods are used to take into account the difference between landlines and cellphones.

The “pollsters blew it so polls are now outdated” nonsense from 2016 has been refuted as nauseam. Just google any of the hundreds of rebuttals from 538, the wash post, or NY Times.

 

[fishonjazz]

Are there any credible pollsters? Are any polls credible?

It use to be that pollsters relied upon statistical sampling via phone interviews. 20 years ago, the sampling method included a minor error because it ignored homes without phones.

Today, I suspect the vast majority of homes do not have landlines. Of course, virtually everyone -- including children -- have cell phones. But how many adults answer calls from an unknown caller and, if they did, would respond to a political survey? It seems to me that only folks who want to give their opinion are being sampled, and that group is not representative of the voting public.

The only polling method that makes any sense to me is to return to physically knocking on doors and asking the head of the house his or her opinion. Until that happens, I won't be taking any poll seriously.

Good post.
I literally never answer my phone if nothing shows on my caller ID. If you call me and I don't know you and you want me to talk to you then you better leave a message.
Also, if I did happen to answer a call and it turns out it was for some political survey then I would immediately hang up.

 

[Ellipse]

Yes, There are credible pollsters. Methods are used to take into account the difference between landlines and cellphones.

The “pollsters blew it so polls are now outdated” nonsense from 2016 has been refuted as nauseam. Just google any of the hundreds of rebuttals from 538, the wash post, or NY Times.

Do you answer your phone if the caller is unknown? I don't because of robocalls -- if they leave a message I may return the call. I doubt that my response is limited to an insignificant portion of the voting public.